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Old 09-25-2008, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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They die and the coyotes will not let them carry them along. If they are sick and cannot keep up they are also left.
It amazes me that there are Americans that have no concept or feelings of another human.
What??? How many times can you spin this against the people of the USA? Have you read the previos posts at all? No decent human being would ever allow another to die of thirst, starvation, etc regardless of the victims nationality or legal/illegal status. Nor have I ever noticed people celebrating when another illegal is found dead attemptig to cross into the USA. Even the "evil" anti illegals such as myself can't see how you continue to act as if anyone against allowing illegals to have free reign over our nation can be classified as some kind of subhuman monter that only wishes to see the total demise of all humans not residing in the USA through any means possible. Until you can find a majority of people that truely think this way on any of these forums, please quit insulting the morals and intelligence of many of us that post on this ste.
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Old 09-25-2008, 02:10 PM
 
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What??? How many times can you spin this against the people of the USA? Have you read the previos posts at all? No decent human being would ever allow another to die of thirst, starvation, etc regardless of the victims nationality or legal/illegal status. Nor have I ever noticed people celebrating when another illegal is found dead attemptig to cross into the USA. Even the "evil" anti illegals such as myself can't see how you continue to act as if anyone against allowing illegals to have free reign over our nation can be classified as some kind of subhuman monter that only wishes to see the total demise of all humans not residing in the USA through any means possible. Until you can find a majority of people that truely think this way on any of these forums, please quit insulting the morals and intelligence of many of us that post on this ste.
Amen....
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Old 09-25-2008, 02:22 PM
 
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This entire situation is just plain sad.

While I certainly would not want to encourage people to undertake a dangerous desert crossing by going so far as to set up water stations, I could never deny water to someone who was in need of it. There has to be a better way to discourage people other than denying them water.
It IS a little harsh, I agree....somthing like disconnecting the brakes on bicycles in an attempt to teach bike thieves a lesson (by letting them crash). An understandable wish, of course....but unneccesarily cruel for 'civilized people'.

This whole thread is a real 'wobbler' for me. I've already made my point about having great sympathy for thirsty people....yet, "permanent, unmanned" watering stations DOES seem to go a long way toward aiding lawbreakers. As I've said, how about "ICE water stations"? (get it ?)...You get your water, but in doing so, you trip an alarm, and you are picked up BEFORE getting to civilization and 'blending in', and you're returned home. I'm sure if we could 'find' thirsty people, ICE could find them too....if that's truly our aim.
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Old 09-25-2008, 02:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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It IS a little harsh, I agree....somthing like disconnecting the brakes on bicycles in an attempt to teach bike thieves a lesson (by letting them crash). An understandable wish, of course....but unneccesarily cruel for 'civilized people'.

This whole thread is a real 'wobbler' for me. I've already made my point about having great sympathy for thirsty people....yet, "permanent, unmanned" watering stations DOES seem to go a long way toward aiding lawbreakers. As I've said, how about "ICE water stations"? (get it ?)...You get your water, but in doing so, you trip an alarm, and you are picked up BEFORE getting to civilization and 'blending in', and you're returned home. I'm sure if we could 'find' thirsty people, ICE could find them too....if that's truly our aim.
Good idea Mac.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:34 PM
 
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What??? How many times can you spin this against the people of the USA? Have you read the previos posts at all? No decent human being would ever allow another to die of thirst, starvation, etc regardless of the victims nationality or legal/illegal status. Nor have I ever noticed people celebrating when another illegal is found dead attemptig to cross into the USA. Even the "evil" anti illegals such as myself can't see how you continue to act as if anyone against allowing illegals to have free reign over our nation can be classified as some kind of subhuman monter that only wishes to see the total demise of all humans not residing in the USA through any means possible. Until you can find a majority of people that truely think this way on any of these forums, please quit insulting the morals and intelligence of many of us that post on this ste.
You do not deserve to even be acknowledged, but you DO NOT and any concept of what you talking about, and unless you leave near the border you never will.
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Old 09-25-2008, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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You do not deserve to even be acknowledged, but you DO NOT and any concept of what you talking about, and unless you leave near the border you never will.
Not this old turnaround again...Don't you always use the "bordertown" quote when you don't like someones point of view? (I've read quite a few of your posts over the last few days.) By the way, how is proving that not all Americans aren't the racist monsters you portray them to be immature in any way? As far as living near the border, I reside in southwest Texas and am very up to date on the immigration issues in the USA. Perhaps your misled copassion for the illegals has blinded you somehow.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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You do not deserve to even be acknowledged, but you DO NOT and any concept of what you talking about, and unless you leave near the border you never will.
And unless you've ever lived in Mexico, you have no idea why people come illegally.

I'd rather people "aid and abet" by providing illegals with water than allowing people- especially children- to die. Gosh darn, I guess I'm just a bleeding heart liberal.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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And unless you've ever lived in Mexico, you have no idea why people come illegally.

I'd rather people "aid and abet" by providing illegals with water than allowing people- especially children- to die. Gosh darn, I guess I'm just a bleeding heart liberal.
Where is the rage in Mexico against the elite? Or; is it due to the campensinos being afraid of fighting for their rights?

Remember that Mx's per capita income is almost $13K a year-----------quite similar to Argentina yet the latter Hispanic nation appears to be much better off overall.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Perhaps your misled copassion for the illegals has blinded you somehow.
You most certainly hit the nail on the head!!
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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And unless you've ever lived in Mexico, you have no idea why people come illegally.

I'd rather people "aid and abet" by providing illegals with water than allowing people- especially children- to die. Gosh darn, I guess I'm just a bleeding heart liberal.
I think you might need to move in with Sassy.
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