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Old 09-24-2008, 01:35 PM
 
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Critics of a proposed state school board policy that would bar illegal immigrants from the state’s two-year schools are passionate in their opposition: “Where in the name of God does somebody preclude a child from getting an education,” asked Rich Lopez, who works with immigrants and encourages them to get an education.

The dedication of Lopez and others who support the immigrant community is admirable; however, they’re ignoring the elephant in the living room. The policy addresses those who are in the country illegally, whose very presence here is unauthorized.

That indisputable fact trumps all other arguments.

Illegal immigrants and the services and benefits they receive in this country constitute one of the most contentious issues of our time.


Opening the doors to higher education for illegal immigrants when millions of citizens lack access to college programs is unthinkable.

The approach endorsed by many hard-line opponents — deporting about 20 million illegal immigrants — is unrealistic. The U.S. government must develop a reasonable and fair strategy for gaining control of our nation’s borders and those illegal immigrants who are already here.

However, they shouldn’t be coddled, either. On Thursday, the state school board is expected to vote on the question of illegal immigrants’ access to two-year schools. When considering illegal immigrants, the accent should be placed on “illegal.”

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In light of the fact that they have cheaper college rates, they would be better off going to school without fear of deportation. Besides it's where they belong.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:47 PM
 
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Higher education (much like home ownership) is not a right. It is a priviledge. We are fortunate that in this country a K-12 education is considered a right, but after that --no, its not. Espeically if you are here illegally. Don't like it? Go back to the home country (chances are great that the old language is still being used daily in their homes, anyways) and attempt to go to college there. Except, the home country cannot be bullied or guilted into providing it free the way the US can and has.

And as far as the quote of the infeasibility of deporting upwards of 20-30 million people -- hey, how do we know till we try? They were certainly able to evacuate Galveston and Houston quickly, no doubt the same can happen for the illegal crowd.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:51 PM
 
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Why not upon identification of an illegal alien applying for admission, notify ICE for immediate deportation?
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:56 PM
 
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Why not upon identification of an illegal alien applying for admission, notify ICE for immediate deportation?
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Anyways, I'm all for illegals getting an education, as long as theyre not getting free money for it.
If they want to attend a junior college, and their parents are working along with the kid working to put him/her through school, good for them.

To choose to attend college, the kid has a desire to learn. More than likely already speaks English and is more than likely assimilated. I wouldn't doubt that someone willing to get a higher education, would be willing to eventually get their papers.
That's a person not looking for a free ride, but looking to educate him/herself and gain skills.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:56 PM
 
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Why not upon identification of an illegal alien applying for admission, notify ICE for immediate deportation?
Sorry you didn't get the memo. PC has been pre-determined to be the official cause of death on America's autopsy report and death certificate.
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:00 PM
 
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Anyways, I'm all for illegals getting an education, as long as theyre not getting free money for it.
If they want to attend a junior college, and their parents are working along with the kid working to put him/her through school, good for them.

To choose to attend college, the kid has a desire to learn. More than likely already speaks English and is more than likely assimilated. I wouldn't doubt that someone willing to get a higher education, would be willing to eventually get their papers.
That's a person not looking for a free ride, but looking to educate him/herself and gain skills.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't children born to immigrants here in this country considered legal? In that case, there is no issue. There's only an issue if these are adults who were not born here.
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:02 PM
 
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Anyways, I'm all for illegals getting an education, as long as theyre not getting free money for it.
If they want to attend a junior college, and their parents are working along with the kid working to put him/her through school, good for them.

To choose to attend college, the kid has a desire to learn. More than likely already speaks English and is more than likely assimilated. I wouldn't doubt that someone willing to get a higher education, would be willing to eventually get their papers.
That's a person not looking for a free ride, but looking to educate him/herself and gain skills.
Gee I cannot imagine why people call you pro-illegal. You post an eye roll emiticon because someone dare suggest that if someone is discovered to be here illegally then ICE should be called and they should be deported. Yet if anyone dare calls you pro-illegal you claim that you aren't?
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:03 PM
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't children born to immigrants here in this country considered legal? In that case, there is no issue. There's only an issue if these are adults who were not born here.
The article in the OP is about illegal aliens.
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:08 PM
 
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The article in the OP is about illegal aliens.
Nothing like comprehending what you read is it Nic? Otherwise we'd be lost without it.
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:09 PM
 
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There should be NO tax-funded subsidies or scholarships, and they should be required to pay the foreign student rates. They should be placed at the end of the list, after legal citizens and legal foreign students. If there are empty slots after everyone has been admitted, so be it.

We should not encourage illegal aliens to remain in this country. If they receive an education, they must return to their countries of origin -- no amnesty. After all, they are illegal, and will not be eligible for employment in this country.

They are not entitled to anything, simply because they have managed to remain in this country in violation of our immigration laws. If the DREAMies are representative of most illegal alien students, they are ingrates deserving of nothing but deportation.
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