East L.A., 96% Latino, want city to call their own (enemy, birth)

[amc760]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

Our 'East LA' here; Guadalupe, incorporated about 30 years ago to avoid annexation by either Phx and/or Tempe----------the residents there (mostly Hispanic/Yaqui Indian) were petrified about being 'urban renewed' out of existence. Too; Guad had its own police department but it was decommissioned about 20 years ago due to corruption hence Sheriff Joe running law enforcement there now. Some of the residents are pissed whereas others are happy.

I dont think Guadalupe and East LA are much alike other than being majority Hispanic communities.
Guadalupe has a population of 5,000 East LA has a population of about 120,000.
I dont think East LA fears being "urban renewed", they just want more control over their community.

You guys are focusing too much on the ethnicity of the community's makeup.

[MIKEETC]

Originally Posted by macmeal

Lots of info...thanks for your post. Reminds me of the time just a few years ago when "Mission Viejo....98% yuppie".....wanted to form THEIR own city, and did. It's a pretty common occurrence around here.

You're welcome.

Originally Posted by mkfarnam

Foothill Blvd...aka Route 66.

Besides the "Community Plan" There's also a "General Plan" and it may require an "Enviromental Impact Report".

East LA, prior to any decision on incorporation, will be required to conduct an Environmental Review which may result in the need for an Environmental Impact Report (EIR). They could be exempted from this requirement. I am inclined to say they would be exempt since East LA is at (or near) build-out as the most significant changes would be legal and financial, i.e. physical changes and corresponding impacts would be limited. This assumes that East LA is not planning on major redevelopment. Of course, LAFCO could disagree...

The General Plan would come later after incorporation (I read the incorporation guidelines quickly so I may be 'off' on this ).

Originally Posted by mkfarnam

Your very familar with the happenings of So Cal. Are you from the Planning Dept,?

I work in the planning department for a local municipality in the Inland Empire. Plus, I have lived here all my life. The evolution of Southern California is very, very interesting. It is a fascinating study in urban development.

Originally Posted by mkfarnam

I have seen the changes in Fontana (Mayor Mark Nuaimi). with the 8 mi, stretch of the I-210.

Fontana has certainly come a long way. In fact, the Inland Empire has come a long way.

Originally Posted by mkfarnam

I lived in the 5 Distict of San Bndo, County,(district Supervisor Jose Gonzales). Maybe your familiar with the 2 Sphere of Influences in SanBndo Co, Bloomington and Muscoy. I'm from Muscoy. near UCSB. just off of Highland Ave by the I-210.

I was reading the newspaper the other day - Bloomington is considering incorporation, too.

Cheers

[michael85225]

WHY IS THIS IN THE "IMMIGRATION" SECTION? East LA is place prodominantly known for AMERICANS of Mexican descent (or also known as Mexican-Americans or Chicanos). I hate it when people ALWAYS bring up the damn immigration issue when refering to Mexican Americans. East LA is home of the Lowrider, an American creation, not Mexican. Everything about East LA is Mexican American. These people are way different than Mexicans from Mexico. As a matter of fact, many Mexican-AMericans aren't accepted by Mexicans in Mexico. It's really hard being one of these people cause the Mexicans don't accept you and the Americans don't accept you either! What are we to do? Of course maybe there's some illegal immigrants in East LA like there is in other parts of the USA. You people are really killing me right now! Just because someone is of Mexican descent doesn't mean their illegal or immigrants at all for that matter. I am an American of Mexican descent and my parents and grandparents and great grandparents etc, were born and raised in the USA and I am proud of that. I say let East LA have their own city and just kick out the illegal immigrants, because most of the citizens are hard-working American citizens! LEARN THE FACTS PEOPLE!

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by michael85225

WHY IS THIS IN THE "IMMIGRATION" SECTION? East LA is place prodominantly known for AMERICANS of Mexican descent (or also known as Mexican-Americans or Chicanos). I hate it when people ALWAYS bring up the damn immigration issue when refering to Mexican Americans. East LA is home of the Lowrider, an American creation, not Mexican. Everything about East LA is Mexican American. These people are way different than Mexicans from Mexico. As a matter of fact, many Mexican-AMericans aren't accepted by Mexicans in Mexico. It's really hard being one of these people cause the Mexicans don't accept you and the Americans don't accept you either! What are we to do? Of course maybe there's some illegal immigrants in East LA like there is in other parts of the USA. You people are really killing me right now! Just because someone is of Mexican descent doesn't mean their illegal or immigrants at all for that matter. I am an American of Mexican descent and my parents and grandparents and great grandparents etc, were born and raised in the USA and I am proud of that. I say let East LA have their own city and just kick out the illegal immigrants, because most of the citizens are hard-working American citizens! LEARN THE FACTS PEOPLE!

Back in the day: many Chicanos made no bones about wanting the illegals from SOB gone............it seems that many of today's Latinos all too often drank the MEChA Kool Aid and no longer want the illegals to be deported.

[michael85225]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

Back in the day: many Chicanos made no bones about wanting the illegals from SOB gone............it seems that many of today's Latinos all too often drank the MEChA Kool Aid and no longer want the illegals to be deported.

Well you don't know that ALL of them feel that way.

[Anonymous Political Junky]

Let them have Mexico City then. That is really simple.

[Kele]

Originally Posted by michael85225

Well you don't know that ALL of them feel that way.

Precisely.

Just as you don't know that MOST of the people on this forum equate Mexican heritage with being an immigrant--legal or illegal.

[amc760]

Why is this thread still up?

[Kele]

Because the OP forgot to sign a "Do Not Resuscitate" directive.....

People are still discussing it, that's why.

[mkfarnam]

Originally Posted by amc760

Why is this thread still up?

Why are you still up?