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Illigal immigrants taking those jobs are also breaking the law. I have been poor trying to raise my kids and could have made a good living by illegally selling drugs, just because the job is offered and would help me financillay dosent justify engaging in illegal activity. You can not put ALL the blame on the businesses or the governement. Personal responsibility have to come into play.
That isn't the same. I'm not breaking any laws by having a house with stuff in it. Employers who hire illegal immigrants are breaking the law, taking advantage of the lower wage they can pay and giving your job away to a non-US citizen. If you were poor and desperate, this might look a little less one-sided to you.
I've been poor and desperate. I've been homeless and on the street. I've wondered how I could possibly feed my children and pay rent at the same time, but I have never, ever, even for a moment, considered lawlessess as an antidote to poverty.
Employers are breaking the law by offering employment to illegal aliens, but you miss the point of my analogy.
Simply because employers WILL hire illegal immigrants does not mean that they are then compelled to break the law by coming into the U.S. to work illegally.
Simply because you have some really nice "stuff" in your house does not mean that I am compelled to break into your house and steal it all.
Illegal entry into the U.S. is not a victimless crime and illegal aliens are not exculpable in their actions or their own personal responsibility for those actions.
Remember personal responsibility? People stepping up and accepting responsibility for their own actions and the consequences thereof?
I am sick and disgusted with people coming here and sucking up our resources. I just turned off the tv after watching America's wealth go up in smoke. How the he!! can we feed the world while our own 401K's are vanishing into thin air. We have two candidates running for the W.H and neither of them have a clue.
LOL! I can honestly say, I don't care what race or ethnicity my son chooses for a wife. As long as she is a decent person, truly loves him, and is a legal resident of this country. My only concern is for his happiness. He seems to like them ALL, and they ALL seem to like him.
Illigal immigrants taking those jobs are also breaking the law. I have been poor trying to raise my kids and could have made a good living by illegally selling drugs, just because the job is offered and would help me financillay dosent justify engaging in illegal activity. You can not put ALL the blame on the businesses or the governement. Personal responsibility have to come into play.
Absolutely! While the government and unscrupulous employers are certainly complicit, illegal aliens are not innocent. I’m so sick of hearing that they really don’t understand they are committing crimes; and they aren’t criminals for simply coming here to work. BS!
People don’t “sneak” into a country and not realize they are violating laws. People don’t pay for “forged” documents and not realize it’s wrong. People don’t unwittingly “steal” identities and use another name for employment purposes, credit cards, mortgages, and auto loans. Even a toddler knows his/her name.
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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All of the Mexican people I have known have been hard-working, friendly people. I'd say I have a favorable impression of them as a group. I'm sure there are good and bad Mexican people, just like there are good and bad people from every race.
I like diversity. I don't care what language people want to speak. I don't care what kind of music they listen to or what kind of food they eat. It is of no concern to me if people come here from any country. I don't think we should all be the same.
I think the problem with immigrants working in the US illegally stems from the people who hire them. I don't think you can blame the poor man for wanting a job. And I think the people who hire them should be punished and forced to pay minimum wage to employees.
Give this man a Cigar! Another person uneffected by illegal immigration..for now anyway.
All of the Mexican people I have known have been hard-working, friendly people. I'd say I have a favorable impression of them as a group. I'm sure there are good and bad Mexican people, just like there are good and bad people from every race.
I like diversity. I don't care what language people want to speak. I don't care what kind of music they listen to or what kind of food they eat. It is of no concern to me if people come here from any country. I don't think we should all be the same.
I think the problem with immigrants working in the US illegally stems from the people who hire them. I don't think you can blame the poor man for wanting a job. And I think the people who hire them should be punished and forced to pay minimum wage to employees.
Yes, I do blame him, if “wanting a job” involves using a stolen or fake SSN, or other fraudulent means.
Remember personal responsibility? People stepping up and accepting responsibility for their own actions and the consequences thereof?
It SOUNDS familiar, and I KNOW I must have heard of it..but it was so long ago I may be confusing it with something else. Give me a few hints. Can ANYONE have it, or is it just for some people?....
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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I've been poor and desperate. I've been homeless and on the street.
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I've wondered how I could possibly feed my children and pay rent at the same time,
but I have never, ever, even for a moment, considered lawlessess as an antidote to poverty.
Employers are breaking the law by offering employment to illegal aliens, but you miss the point of my analogy.
Simply because employers WILL hire illegal immigrants does not mean that they are then compelled to break the law by coming into the U.S. to work illegally.
Simply because you have some really nice "stuff" in your house does not mean that I am compelled to break into your house and steal it all.
Illegal entry into the U.S. is not a victimless crime and illegal aliens are not exculpable in their actions or their own personal responsibility for those actions.
Remember personal responsibility? People stepping up and accepting responsibility for their own actions and the consequences thereof?
All of the Mexican people I have known have been hard-working, friendly people. I'd say I have a favorable impression of them as a group. I'm sure there are good and bad Mexican people, just like there are good and bad people from every race.
I like diversity. I don't care what language people want to speak. I don't care what kind of music they listen to or what kind of food they eat. It is of no concern to me if people come here from any country. I don't think we should all be the same. I think the problem with immigrants working in the US illegally stems from the people who hire them. I don't think you can blame the poor man for wanting a job. And I think the people who hire them should be punished and forced to pay minimum wage to employees.
Thats the way I see it too.
People are so angry at a person who is leaving everything he knows behind, to go to a place he knows nothing about, to work for a crummy job that pays a lot more than in the country he comes from.
The way people get mad, you'd think illegals were rolling around in money baths, wearing top hats smoking cigars while their wives prance around in diamonds and furs laughing maniacally.
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Another person uneffected by illegal immigration..for now anyway.
