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10-10-2008, 05:15 AM
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The Forgotten Issue: Illegal Immigration and Crime
# While immigration law enforcement is a federal responsibility, ICE cannot do the job effectively without assistance from state and local law enforcement, particularly when it comes to immigrant gangs.
# Failure to adequately control the U.S.-Mexico border and to deter illegal settlement in general undermines the progress ICE and local law enforcement agencies have made in disrupting criminal immigrant street gangs.
The MCAO report from County Attorney Andrew Thomas features these startling numbers for prosecuted felony cases in Maricopa County:
In 2007, illegal immigrants accounted for:
" 16.5% of those sentenced for violent crimes
" 18.5% of those sentenced for property crimes
" 33.5% of those sentenced for the manufacture, sale or transport of drugs
" 50% of those sentenced for crimes related to "chop shops"
" 35.8% of those sentenced for kidnapping
" 20.3% of those sentenced for felony DUI.
While this topic is off the radar screen in the presidential campaign, not even selected by Tom Brokaw for a question in the last presidential debate, it certainly bears reporting when new information that bolsters the questioned warnings many Americans have been sounding about safety, security, and border enforcement come to light.
American Thinker: The Forgotten Issue: Illegal Immigration and Crime
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10-10-2008, 05:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JDubsMom
# While immigration law enforcement is a federal responsibility, ICE cannot do the job effectively without assistance from state and local law enforcement, particularly when it comes to immigrant gangs.
# Failure to adequately control the U.S.-Mexico border and to deter illegal settlement in general undermines the progress ICE and local law enforcement agencies have made in disrupting criminal immigrant street gangs.
The MCAO report from County Attorney Andrew Thomas features these startling numbers for prosecuted felony cases in Maricopa County:
In 2007, illegal immigrants accounted for:
" 16.5% of those sentenced for violent crimes
" 18.5% of those sentenced for property crimes
" 33.5% of those sentenced for the manufacture, sale or transport of drugs
" 50% of those sentenced for crimes related to "chop shops"
" 35.8% of those sentenced for kidnapping
" 20.3% of those sentenced for felony DUI.
While this topic is off the radar screen in the presidential campaign, not even selected by Tom Brokaw for a question in the last presidential debate, it certainly bears reporting when new information that bolsters the questioned warnings many Americans have been sounding about safety, security, and border enforcement come to light.
American Thinker: The Forgotten Issue: Illegal Immigration and Crime
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Some one needs to call the ORKIN Guy...
O.R.K.I.N. organize. reduce. kickout. illegals. now. 
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10-10-2008, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Arizona Bound
Some one needs to call the ORKIN Guy...
O.R.K.I.N. organize. reduce. kickout. illegals. now. 
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I couldn't agree more. This has gone on long enough. 
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10-10-2008, 11:20 AM
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There's chop shops all over CA. Across the stret from me, some illegals set up a chop shop in a 2 car garage. They stripped cars in one bay and lived in the other. They're in the open and new cars were unloaded there every day, but the Law doesn't seem to want to do anything about it.
I reported them twice.
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10-10-2008, 11:42 AM
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Things that can't go on forever, don't.
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i think part of the reason that this country is in so much trouble is that we have come to have no respect for our government! it started when they would not enforce the laws on the books with the illegal immigrants, then bailed out irresponsible homeowners, then bailed out irresponsible banks, and now there is the government power grab. we are getting to the point where honest citizens have nowhere to turn and cannot be expected to bear the brunt of all government failures.
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10-10-2008, 12:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JDubsMom
While this topic is off the radar screen in the presidential campaign, not even selected by Tom Brokaw for a question in the last presidential debate, it certainly bears reporting when new information that bolsters the questioned warnings many Americans have been sounding about safety, security, and border enforcement come to light.
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Once again, JDubs . . . why would anyone with half a brain expect an Illegal to honor and/or respect any of our laws?
Or, as in the Foreclosure Fiasco . . . honor and/or respect any contract or agreement made with a Lending Institution?
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10-10-2008, 05:31 PM
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Well Bummer, now that we have just about hit rock bottom on a financial level, I'd like to believe that whoever gets elected that common sense will prevail and that amnesty is off the table. 
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11-02-2008, 08:36 PM
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immigration is such a difficult subject to choose a side. totally true on the failing economy, i think that the goverment knows about the situation but doesnt want to address it because it would make people angry if they started deporting all the illegal immigrants they could find. It is also heartless to deport the illegal immigrants that respect the law (the ones that only came to support their family and not commit crimes) yet by deporting and not granting amnesty would save the economy.
then again immigrants made up AMERICA
but they werent illegal (were they?)
choosing a side is soooooooooo difficult, why couldnt there be more places that uses democracy, instead of communism dictatorism, monarchy... because if people are running away to AMERICA its obvious that democracy works
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11-02-2008, 08:41 PM
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I would like to see Americans sue the ACLU, pro-illegal groups and sanctuary cities. Seriously, many American are victims of illegal immigration. They should sue, especially those who are victims of violence crimes committed by illegals. They can sue the sanctuary cities, communities and even the federal government where the crimes occurred. I haven't googled this, but I don't think it has been done. Most Americans have been silent for too long. Start suing and they will back down.
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11-02-2008, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iluvscandy
immigration is such a difficult subject to choose a side. totally true on the failing economy, i think that the goverment knows about the situation but doesnt want to address it because it would make people angry if they started deporting all the illegal immigrants they could find. It is also heartless to deport the illegal immigrants that respect the law (the ones that only came to support their family and not commit crimes) yet by deporting and not granting amnesty would save the economy.
then again immigrants made up AMERICA
but they werent illegal (were they?)
choosing a side is soooooooooo difficult, why couldnt there be more places that uses democracy, instead of communism dictatorism, monarchy... because if people are running away to AMERICA its obvious that democracy works
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For the record: working without reporting your income is a Felony..........one needs a SSN--------and, no illegal immigrant has a valid one which equals an additional Felony.
In other words: I can safely assume that most illegals age 18+ are Felons.
Bottom line: if you or I were caught committing any of the above crimes----------we would be looking at some serious time in Federal prison. Why should illegals be given a free pass?
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