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Old 10-27-2008, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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You obviously do not know Americans all that well: slow to anger; but once enraged------------we go all the way.

Be it rebuilding after a disaster, fighting a war, or expelling the illegals-----------we will prevail.
What are you talking about? I'm American and not all Americans agree with you. Like I said before, Accept the fact you can't remove 12 million people, it don't work like that. Foreclosure is a much bigger issue than immigration.
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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What are you talking about? I'm American and not all Americans agree with you. Like I said before, Accept the fact you can't remove 12 million people, it don't work like that. Foreclosure is a much bigger issue than immigration.
We may not be able to remove 12 million people but we can make it so that they will go back on their own accord. If they have no jobs, no benefits, no free education, no free non-emergency healthcare, nothing entitled to them why would they stay?
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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What are you talking about? I'm American and not all Americans agree with you. Like I said before, Accept the fact you can't remove 12 million people, it don't work like that.
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Foreclosure is a much bigger issue than immigration.
That's a matter of opinion.
It depends on what part(s) of this country you live in. Take the forclosures to the political forum, this is the immigration forum.
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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We may not be able to remove 12 million people but we can make it so that they will go back on their own accord. If they have no jobs, no benefits, no free education, no free non-emergency healthcare, nothing entitled to them why would they stay?
lol You wish, but thats not going to happen. That will be consider discrimination and all hell will break loose.
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:51 PM
 
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What are you talking about? I'm American and not all Americans agree with you. Like I said before, Accept the fact you can't remove 12 million people, it don't work like that. Foreclosure is a much bigger issue than immigration.
We could hire Vicente Fox as a consult, he could tell us how to get rid of 12 million people, he did it.
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:54 PM
 
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We may not be able to remove 12 million people but we can make it so that they will go back on their own accord. If they have no jobs, no benefits, no free education, no free non-emergency healthcare, nothing entitled to them why would they stay?
If they don't have all the free education and healthcare, no food stamps, and no high paying jobs, then it's going to seem just like home to them, and they would likely decide their real home is better because at least they know the language and customs there.

There is no good reason to keep unemployed illegals here, and no reason to let them take jobs that unemployed Americans would need. Back in Mexico, many of them were sustinence farmers who could feed their families by working the land. That's a whole lot better than laying around on welfare programs here.
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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lol You wish, but thats not going to happen. That will be consider discrimination and all hell will break loose.
Howard County, MD just made a new health insurance plan that requires proof of legal status (sorry, illegals) and no one is screaming about it.
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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Howard County, MD just made a new health insurance plan that requires proof of legal status (sorry, illegals) and no one is screaming about it.
How are illegal immigrants effecting you? You talking about Howard, MD. I bet Howard, MD don't even have alot of immigrants let alone illegal. And beside that is just one county. Honestly the majority of illegal immigrants aren't committing crimes, except just being here illegal. I hear about legal Americans committing way more crime than illegal immigrants. How do you know someone is illegal, unless you actually ask them yourself? Just because you don't speak English well or speak your native language out in public, don't mean your illegal.
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Illegals affect everyone. Every tax dollar used to counter the damage they do. Every tax dollar spent catching those who commit crimes. Every injured US citizen victim of an illegal drunk driving impacts us.
Illegals commiting crimes. Every illegal is commiting a crime just by being here. Every illegal is commiting fraud to some degree. Every illegals is guilty of theft. Be it by tax evasion, identity theft, or just the plain old theft of public services. They are all criminals. No exceptions, everyone of them 100% are criminals.
When I built my house I visited the job daily. The mason had a crew of hispanics. I asked him are they legal? He said absolutely. I said good lets see the green cards. By law an immigrant is to carry their green cards at all times. None of them had green cards. I fired the mason and reported him. Who were these illegals hurting? Every american in this country. Every legal immigrant in this country. Every licenced insured masonary contractor in this country. They steal work from legals, they low ball wages they deserve but 1 reward. Deportation.
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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What are you talking about? I'm American and not all Americans agree with you. Like I said before, Accept the fact you can't remove 12 million people, it don't work like that. Foreclosure is a much bigger issue than immigration.
Maybe not all of them: but; most of your putative 12 million losers can/will leave-----------willingly or not: it is their choice.
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