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Old 11-05-2008, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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That's why there's telemundo!
The de facto language of the USA is English; not Spanish (or any other language).

Either assimilate or be left behind.

 
Old 11-05-2008, 05:49 PM
 
Location: South FL
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A perfect post.........
Exactly correct I am so sick of catering, pandering and bending low to the hispanic population.
My wife is Thai I don't see any English to Thai translators standing by just in case. More to the point we don't hear the asian community demanding translators.
Screw them, either learn the language or accept that your lack of desire to assimulate into american society cost you a vote.
If only the hispanic community would just learn some english and understand it they wouldn't have any problems.

Oh well, that's how we are.
 
Old 11-06-2008, 07:50 AM
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After 28 deleted posts, I have a few suggestions for you folks. I know I might sound like a broken record, but here it is:
1. Don't feed the trolls, report and ignore.
2. Stop getting personal
3. Calm down.
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:26 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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even if they know english, the voting process is still a bit tricky.

lets look at prop 8 in CA. before the vote, people would talk jokingly about "is a yes vote, for gay marriage? or is it a no vote for gay marriage?" i didnt pay to much attention to this. i thought jay leno was just being funny. but then prop 8 passed and in the ensuing days i have talked to about 5 people who have related experiences about neighbors and bus boys and bus drivers and many others who when asked about prop 8, would say, " i voted yes, for marriage equality". they thought a yes vote meant marriage equality. people got confused even by the basic, 6th grade level langauge. this is abig possibility for native speakers, so imagine the confusion with non native speakers.

if debates are televised on telemundo, in english, with spanish subtitles, and radio ads are in spanish, and ballots come in all types of languages, why would this request by some people who have some difficulty in grasping a new language be out of line? shouldnt we want to help them make an informed decision?
 
Old 11-06-2008, 03:31 PM
 
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even if they know english, the voting process is still a bit tricky.

lets look at prop 8 in CA. before the vote, people would talk jokingly about "is a yes vote, for gay marriage? or is it a no vote for gay marriage?" i didnt pay to much attention to this. i thought jay leno was just being funny. but then prop 8 passed and in the ensuing days i have talked to about 5 people who have related experiences about neighbors and bus boys and bus drivers and many others who when asked about prop 8, would say, " i voted yes, for marriage equality". they thought a yes vote meant marriage equality. people got confused even by the basic, 6th grade level langauge. this is abig possibility for native speakers, so imagine the confusion with non native speakers.

if debates are televised on telemundo, in english, with spanish subtitles, and radio ads are in spanish, and ballots come in all types of languages, why would this request by some people who have some difficulty in grasping a new language be out of line? shouldnt we want to help them make an informed decision?
Out of curiosity, does CA have the various amendments/bills/provisions etc.. written in both 'legalese' as well as common English? My state does this, and I admit it makes voting easier and a lot faster.
If other states do not do this, I would suggest trying to make a ballot change for the next election.....it is certainly something that would benefit everybody.
 
Old 11-06-2008, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Pa
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If only the hispanic community would just learn some english and understand it they wouldn't have any problems.

Oh well, that's how we are.
Look if I move to another country that speaks a different language I for my own well being am compelled to adapt to their culture, learn their language. It is quite simply unreasonable to expect a nation to adapt to those who willingly chose to migrate to said nation. Not unly is it unreasonable, but it is completely arrogant to demand it. For the arrogance alone it should be denied.
 
Old 11-06-2008, 06:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The de facto language of the USA is English; not Spanish (or any other language).

Either assimilate or be left behind.
Who's says we don't have a supply of cheap American labor? I think we've identified it.
 
Old 11-06-2008, 06:10 PM
 
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If only the hispanic community would just learn some english and understand it they wouldn't have any problems.

Oh well, that's how we are.
There are far more problems with th "hispanic community" than language. There are far too many Americans of hispanic descent who support illegal immigration and are harboring illegal alien family members right under their own roofs.

Until they stop marching alongside the illegal aliens demanding amnesty, and stop their racist groups from lumping legals and illegals together in their power in numbers scheme, they will continue to draw the heat, anger and loathing of all Americans who want illegals to go home.
 
Old 11-06-2008, 08:38 PM
 
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There are far more problems with th "hispanic community" than language. There are far too many Americans of hispanic descent who support illegal immigration and are harboring illegal alien family members right under their own roofs.

Until they stop marching alongside the illegal aliens demanding amnesty, and stop their racist groups from lumping legals and illegals together in their power in numbers scheme, they will continue to draw the heat, anger and loathing of all Americans who want illegals to go home.
So you feel anger and loathing towards Hispanic-Americans?
 
Old 11-06-2008, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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So you feel anger and loathing towards Hispanic-Americans?
JDubsMom is correct all too often here.

Many 'Chicanos' seem to support illegal (Mestizo) Latinos over fellow Americans.
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