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Old 03-04-2008, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Missouri of course
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Two months after Arizona enacted a law punishing employers who hire illegal immigrants, the law is already achieving one of its goals: Scores of immigrants are fleeing to other states or back to their Latin American homelands.


Mexican politicians say migrants returning because of AZ law (broken link)



YUMA - Officials in a Mexican border town are weighing their options for dealing with the large number of migrants that they expect to see returning to Mexico as Arizona's employer sanctions law takes hold.

Mexican border town gearing up to deal with returning migrants (broken link)

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Such nice things to read aren't they? I love it when the laws are followed.

Last edited by ontheroad; 03-04-2008 at 04:53 PM.. Reason: copyright issues
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Old 03-04-2008, 11:36 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Out of the set of three we have one illegal worker considering a return to Mexico Ctiy.

We have two reports of border governments attempting to obtain Mexican Federal Funding for a migration that might or might not occur.

Out of this you make a major trend?

Almost everything cited is quite in keeping with what is happening in Las Vegas which has a similar employment situation...the residental construction industry has gone to hell badly damaging the earning power of the majority hispanic workers in that industry. They are losing houses and leaving if they can find a place where jobs are available.

There is however no illegal employment law in Nevada.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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As Greatday stated.

And; I can back up much of what he says due to my living here in Arizona----------right at the edge of a tiny 'barrio' here in the Phx area.

Said 'Hispanic' enclave is emptying out; I can safely assume they are illegal immigrants---------otherwise, would not be seeing mattresses and other furniture discarded in the alley.

Legals let alone Americans of Latino background would not be abandoning their possessions in the quantities as described above.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:26 AM
 
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“Give us your tired, your poor, your hungry, your huddled masses yearning to be free” What ever happend to this saying that is carved on the Statue of Liberty? Why isn't the United States honoring it? Has the United States Changed it's mind now? Or did it mean "Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free (as long as they are white or look white but not your Mexicans?)." Has it occured to anyone that first they get rid of this, then they abridge the rights of the U.S. citizens after 9/11 and soon the Constitution goes, then what are we left with? Or should Mexicans stop building and growing America, they should build their own Statue of Mockery instead of holding a torch hold a middle finger at the United States for being such a Disgusting Nation to their people.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:27 AM
 
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“Give us your tired, your poor, your hungry, your huddled masses yearning to be free” What ever happend to this saying that is carved on the Statue of Liberty? Why isn't the United States honoring it? Has the United States Changed it's mind now? Or did it mean "Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free (as long as they are white or look white but not your Mexicans?)." Has it occured to anyone that first they get rid of this, then they abridge the rights of the U.S. citizens after 9/11 and soon the Constitution goes, then what are we left with? Or should Mexicans stop building and growing America, they should build their own Statue of Mockery instead of holding a torch hold a middle finger at the United States for being such a Disgusting Nation to their people.
The issue is legality. Race has nothing to do with it, nor color. Those inside our borders that don't respect the laws of this nation get absolutely NO respect from me.
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Old 04-21-2008, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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“Give us your tired, your poor, your hungry, your huddled masses yearning to be free” What ever happend to this saying that is carved on the Statue of Liberty? Why isn't the United States honoring it? Has the United States Changed it's mind now? Or did it mean "Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free (as long as they are white or look white but not your Mexicans?)." Has it occured to anyone that first they get rid of this, then they abridge the rights of the U.S. citizens after 9/11 and soon the Constitution goes, then what are we left with? Or should Mexicans stop building and growing America, they should build their own Statue of Mockery instead of holding a torch hold a middle finger at the United States for being such a Disgusting Nation to their people.
Things change--------back then it was legal to discriminate against people based on the color of their skin as well.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:45 AM
 
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“Give us your tired, your poor, your hungry, your huddled masses yearning to be free” What ever happend to this saying that is carved on the Statue of Liberty? Why isn't the United States honoring it? Has the United States Changed it's mind now? Or did it mean "Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free (as long as they are white or look white but not your Mexicans?)." Has it occured to anyone that first they get rid of this, then they abridge the rights of the U.S. citizens after 9/11 and soon the Constitution goes, then what are we left with? Or should Mexicans stop building and growing America, they should build their own Statue of Mockery instead of holding a torch hold a middle finger at the United States for being such a Disgusting Nation to their people.
They are not building America, they are trashing it. If they want to build a statue giving the US the 'finger', that is fine with me. As long as they all go back to the Glorious Motherland to build it.

By the way..............if the US is such as Disgusting Nation, why are they clamoring to get into the place? Not very bright, if you ask me.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:12 AM
 
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“Give us your tired, your poor, your hungry, your huddled masses yearning to be free” What ever happend to this saying that is carved on the Statue of Liberty? Why isn't the United States honoring it? Has the United States Changed it's mind now? Or did it mean "Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free (as long as they are white or look white but not your Mexicans?)." Has it occured to anyone that first they get rid of this, then they abridge the rights of the U.S. citizens after 9/11 and soon the Constitution goes, then what are we left with? Or should Mexicans stop building and growing America, they should build their own Statue of Mockery instead of holding a torch hold a middle finger at the United States for being such a Disgusting Nation to their people.
If you'd like to revert back to th time when that little 'ditty' was written, I'm sure you're welcome to do so.....but I don't think you'd LIKE it very much. A few things have changed since then....among them our ability to absorb continued waves of poorly-educated immigrants.....even LEGAL ones. It's not easy to "put people to work" in a high-tech society unless they're highly qualified.
Add to THAT reality, the fact that illegals are coming without even being 'invited', and it takes some real "creative explaining" to convince us exactly WHY is it that we "need" these folks so badly. AND...though it may be upsetting for you to think about, please consider THIS...IF they succeed in gaining amnesty, and becoming legal (which they almost CERTAINLY will do, sooner or later), they will THEN no longer be illegal. With their new "rights", expectations, and unwilingness to live 'in the shadows', will we STILL need them? Isn't the MAIN reason we NOW need them just because they're "cheap"? If the "cheapness" goes, how will their employers cope? Fire them and seek OTHER illegals to fill their jobs?

The little 'Statue of Liberty' piece you quoted didn't address these questions....any comment from you? Do you HONESTLY equate the controlling of illegal immigrants crossing our border with the "end of the Constitution"?..or was this just an exaggeration to help you make your point?
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:18 AM
 
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By the way..............if the US is such as Disgusting Nation, why are they clamoring to get into the place? Not very bright, if you ask me.
It's sort of like an enraged 12-year old, whose parents are "SO out of it" and are "totally STUPID", and are the "WORST PARENTS in the WORLD"....yet he STILL wants his allowance, and a ride to the Mall.....

Make sense now?...
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Bakersfield California
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Has any of you all lived, own business, invest in Mexico?

It does not seem like it to me. There is a lot of wealthy community helping good people there? Not to mention business from Asia and Europe!!!!!!
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