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Old 04-21-2008, 09:30 PM
 
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As I've stated before, the solution is really simple. Implement the Fair Tax and open up the borders. Americans are no better than other nationalities, as far as human rights are concerned. Everyone should be allowed to buy property and live where they want, regardless of nationality or ethnicity.
And I should be able to park my car anywhere I feel like, with the keys in the ignition, with my camera on the front seat, and be able to walk away for as many hours as I choose, and return to find it "A-OK". That should be my right, and anything less than that, just isn't fair.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:20 AM
 
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And I should be able to park my car anywhere I feel like, with the keys in the ignition, with my camera on the front seat, and be able to walk away for as many hours as I choose, and return to find it "A-OK". That should be my right, and anything less than that, just isn't fair.
So long as its on your own property, yes you should. And yes, if your vehicle is stolen or damaged, this isn't fair because its a violation of your property rights.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:31 AM
 
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Sigh. STLI Service 2 Description See specifically about the 9th paragrah.
Whether you want to believe it or not, there actually was a process people had to go through at Ellis Island for them to become citizens. As brief as it may have been, there was a process, and if the immigrants were sick or their papers not in order, they were sent back. Immigrants paid the shipping companies a one way fare, and it was the shipping company's responsibility to make sure everything was in order, or they would have to ship the immigrants back at the shipping company's expense.

There were no benefits or freebies provided to immigrants/new citizens. They became citizens, began to [i]legally[i] work, pay taxes, etc. It was on the immigrants to pay their own way.

Now, compare that to illegals sneaking across the border with no process at all, getting medical care and benefits, and if some of our Presidential candidates have it their way, drivers' licenses. Can you see the difference? I'd almost welcome the process again, brief as it was, as opposed to the all-out chaos now. I'd certainly welcome the immigrants having to pay their own way. Amnesty would hurt our country. Sometimes the "shoot first/ask questions later" actually does not work.


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What kind of horse stuff is this?? before 1925 all you need to do to be
legal of to come here, and that's it , there were no laws or regulations you
would just show a paper with your name, it would then be changed in order to "anglicize it" and that was it, we need to have amnesty and then deal with the rest.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:35 PM
 
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Default Open thread to all who have posted here .

I have spent the last 2hrs. reading all the post on this subject, as to how we should regulate our boarders. Sadly nothing has been said about what our own Government officials have in the past and at this time are moving forward with. That is to open the boarders of Mexico and Canada with the United States. This will be done thru the building of what they call the North American Super Highway. (this can be proved by going on line , it's there . along with the North American Security Agreement )All the while they are building the fence in Arizona ( a smoke screen to keep us busy) which they know will not be needed after the Hwy. is open along with the new rail system. As to the government wanting to give them drivers license and Social Security cards, that is a whole other story of behind the closed door manavering to be discussed in another thread.
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:33 AM
 
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As we are all aware, George W. Bush has wasted over 400-billion dollars of the USA taxpayer's money on a failed war in Iraq that was initiated based on false intelligence. What could this money have been better used on?

What if we had spent this 400-billion dollars on building new manufacturing plants, hospitals, and public schools on every street corner in Mexico? This would accomplish multiple goals:
  • Give the Mexicans a reason to stay in their own country with their own families and earn a decent living.
  • Transform the failing economy of Mexico and afford their citizens the luxuries of automobiles, health care, good food and clothing, air conditioning, and other things that would make staying in Mexico much more attractive.
  • With Americans footing the bill for the Mexican manufacturing plants that would pay lower wages than their USA counterparts, it would allow the USA to compete with the cheap-labor Chinese manufacturers and reduce the huge trade deficit that we have with them.
  • Reduce the load on the over-burdened public school systems and health care industries in the USA that have been overwhelmed with illegal immigrants.

Just an idea. I don't see anyone in government proposing any solutions to the problem. Granted, this one is probably something that would never be considered, but it would probably work if it was.

The way to tackle illegal immigration is to hold the Presidents and governments of these countries accountable for the poverty placed upon the people of their countries.
As long as the US keeps sending handouts they will continue to pocket them and send their citizens across the borders.
Mexico has some of the wealthiest people running the country and some of the wealthiest men controlling things from behind a curtain just as Africa, Haiti, other Caribean countries and some euro countries and there is no need for North America to support any of these countries. Their heads of state are extremely wealthy and the elite in these other countries makes our elite look impoverished! It's time for North America to invest in it's own citizens and Americans and Canadians should be working together toward this goal. Reducing all immigration should at this time be a top priority for both countries at least until they are fiscally able to support immigration, which I do not see in the near future.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:40 PM
 
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The solution? For one, put the United States Army at the border. Get the local police and military police to arrest all illegal Mexicans.
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