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Old 02-27-2007, 08:57 PM
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Those groups, such as Aztlan, are complete idiots and are kooks. They represent only a few knuckleheads.
No, they represent 58% of Latinos, viz. those who believe "Aztlan" was stolen and the treaty of Guadalupe Hildago is invalid.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:39 PM
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No, they represent 58% of Latinos, viz. those who believe "Aztlan" was stolen and the treaty of Guadalupe Hildago is invalid.
Well, here's the deal with that: The VAST majority of Mexicans in Mexico believe this to be the truth (according to a Zogby poll if I remember correctly, something like 80%--they are taught this in Mexican public schools!). Well, when you put the pieces together that the VAST majority of the illegals in this country have come from Mexico, it would seem to make sense that these people are at least sympathetic to the idea of Aztlan. Just look back at the marchs. We saw plenty of signs that were ranting about 'stolen land' by the Europeans. Anyone with eyeballs saw this at least on the news, if not in their own cities all across the USA...
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:45 PM
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We saw their true colors during the 'protests', such as this one in Maywood, when the illegals took down the American flag and raised a Mexican one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIB_XGRm6UQ
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We saw their true colors during the 'protests', such as this one in Maywood, when the illegals took down the American flag and raised a Mexican one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIB_XGRm6UQ
My eye started twitching when I saw that... I'm not even going to post...
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We saw their true colors during the 'protests', such as this one in Maywood, when the illegals took down the American flag and raised a Mexican one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIB_XGRm6UQ

Wonder what would happen to one of us if we went to Mexico and did that to their flag ??? Can you say "Open Fire".....
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No, they represent 58% of Latinos, viz. those who believe "Aztlan" was stolen and the treaty of Guadalupe Hildago is invalid.
Can I see stats on the 58%?
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If you incite someone enough, individuals will take drastic measures. I'm not justifying it at all acceptable the American Flag was taken down or turned upside down. But, you have to realize when you threaten a group of people with deportation that completely affects 30 million illegal immigrants and there complete way of life, there could be serious reprocussions. For example, if I get in a car accident with someone not holding car insurance, and tell them "I'm going to sue your ass, your going to jail." Do you think they are going to stand there peacefully or do you think I've just lit a fire of anger within them?! Think about it.
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Old 02-28-2007, 08:46 AM
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If you incite someone enough, individuals will take drastic measures. I'm not justifying it at all acceptable the American Flag was taken down or turned upside down. But, you have to realize when you threaten a group of people with deportation that completely affects 30 million illegal immigrants and there complete way of life, there could be serious reprocussions. For example, if I get in a car accident with someone not holding car insurance, and tell them "I'm going to sue your ass, your going to jail." Do you think they are going to stand there peacefully or do you think I've just lit a fire of anger within them?! Think about it.
What do you suggest we do then? Let them all stay?
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I was hit by a guy with no insurance one time. The guy ran into the side of me(Vehicle) and then the guy pulled over, he got out and came back to my vehicle and was all frantic about his girlfriend being in labor. I told him to waite here and they would bring an ambulance. He ran back to his toyota(reg cab 4cyl) pickup that was pulling a 15 foot car trailer. Took off down the interstate with me following right behind. The guy pulls over once again only to jump out and un-hook the trailer. Takes off down the interstate. The Point to all this is...This guy didnt have insurance and tried to get away. The guy was finally stopped by me when he rolled the pickup in somebodys front yard. The guys girlfriend wasnt even pregnant and the trailer was stolen. I was not afraid to stop this guy. He was a LAW breaker and deserved to go to jail. I am not afraid of these illegal immagrants who want to threaten us with violence if the government finally decides to inforce existing LAWS. By you "dusesean1986" even mentioning these facts makes me believe you really know how these people are and yet you continue to defend them.

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So we threaten to punish them for their crime and they think they have the right to demean our flag and protest!!! Seethat right there is why so many are against them. they HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE HERE, they have no rightto protest or ask for anything. If they get deported it is their own fault. Hello this isnt their country, not my fault they just have NO RESPECT for us or our way of life.
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