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Old 11-23-2008, 04:21 PM
 
Location: West Creek
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I have noticed that no one is more paraniod about getting robbed than a thief. I have also noticed that liars think that everyone else lies as a habit just like they do.
Maybe you feel that ripping people off is the best way to do business. Maybe you feel that cheating is the only way.
I assure you most Americans do not think like you. Most of us would prefer an honest route any day over a cheat. This way you don't have to worry about who knows what you did and who might turn you in. Peace of mind is worth the additional cost.
I'm not paranoid, I just wouldnt pay additional money for the same work. or sometimes even work better than the licensed contractor. And most americans??? Everyone is out to save money its our nature well at least for the smarter investors. Honestly I do not give a crap about who's jobs are lost to illegals. As Bush stated they only do the jobs nobody wants. Or are you willing to work 15 hours shifts at below minimum wage picking strawberries? I dont think so.
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Old 11-23-2008, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I'm not paranoid, I just wouldnt pay additional money for the same work. or sometimes even work better than the licensed contractor. And most americans??? Everyone is out to save money its our nature well at least for the smarter investors. Honestly I do not give a crap about who's jobs are lost to illegals. As Bush stated they only do the jobs nobody wants. Or are you willing to work 15 hours shifts at below minimum wage picking strawberries? I dont think so.
If/when you get picked up for knowingly hiring illegals............I hope you enjoy receiving jail time and having your assets seized.
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Old 11-23-2008, 06:50 PM
 
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I'm not paranoid, I just wouldnt pay additional money for the same work. or sometimes even work better than the licensed contractor. And most americans??? Everyone is out to save money its our nature well at least for the smarter investors. Honestly I do not give a crap about who's jobs are lost to illegals. As Bush stated they only do the jobs nobody wants. Or are you willing to work 15 hours shifts at below minimum wage picking strawberries? I dont think so.

That's the problem, employers and homeowners who "dont give a crap" about anything but the "right here, right now". by the way, they dont actually do the work a legal citizen won't due. They do the work for the employer at a cheaper price and the costs are passed on to the other taxpayers of that city, and State.

I also disagree that you can hire an unlicensed/undocumented worker and blanketly have the same or superior quality of work. Thats a joke 95% of the time, unless the work is raking leaves on an open grass lawn.
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Old 11-23-2008, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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That's the problem, employers and homeowners who "dont give a crap" about anything but the "right here, right now". by the way, they dont actually do the work a legal citizen won't due. They do the work for the employer at a cheaper price and the costs are passed on to the other taxpayers of that city, and State.

I also disagree that you can hire an unlicensed/undocumented worker and blanketly have the same or superior quality of work. Thats a joke 95% of the time, unless the work is raking leaves on an open grass lawn.
As you stated.
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Old 11-23-2008, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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The Largest minority group on Welfare is Hispanic.

Are you making that up as you go along, or do you have a valid source of that piece of information?

Granted, this is a decade ago, but the stats used to look like this:


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From US Government sources, AFDC Families in 1996 were:

35.9% White
36.9% Black
20.8% Hispanic
3.0% Asian
1.4% Native American
2.0% Unknown
How dramatically has that changed over 10 years? Links?
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Old 12-28-2008, 12:58 AM
 
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Default Report illegals at 1-866-DHS-2ICE

I have no connection with this company. I'm just fed up with the rediculous lack of agressive action to "export" and remove illegals.

Report illegals at 1-866-DHS-2ICE

Come to the US legally or expect to be deported.
Their children grow up & have grown up and are taking our jobs.

Their 'contribution' to the social security does not remotely equal the cost paid out by US citizens.

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Old 12-28-2008, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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I'm not paranoid, I just wouldnt pay additional money for the same work. or sometimes even work better than the licensed contractor. And most americans??? Everyone is out to save money its our nature well at least for the smarter investors. Honestly I do not give a crap about who's jobs are lost to illegals. As Bush stated they only do the jobs nobody wants. Or are you willing to work 15 hours shifts at below minimum wage picking strawberries? I dont think so.
All I can say to you is...WRONG!!!!
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Reeds Spring, MO
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let me get rid of this myth right now, americans will do the work... they just wont do it for wages that are well below the minimum needed to survive. i know people looking for work that will clean your stables with their hands if the pay was decent. please stop the "they will do what americans wont" that is a lie.
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Old 12-28-2008, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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let me get rid of this myth right now, americans will do the work... they just wont do it for wages that are well below the minimum needed to survive. i know people looking for work that will clean your stables with their hands if the pay was decent. please stop the "they will do what americans wont" that is a lie.
They know it's a lie. This is their only type of intimidation.
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Old 12-28-2008, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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They know it's a lie. This is their only type of intimidation.
Very true, indeed!!!
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