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Old 03-06-2007, 12:44 PM
 
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http://www.hermancain.com/news/press-opinion-051006.asp (broken link)

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A Letter from a Slave to an Illegal Alien

May 10, 2006
By Herman Cain
Dear Illegal Alien,

My ancestors were brought to this country in chains against their will, and sold and forced to work like common farm animals. They had to abide by the laws to stay alive.

My ancestors endured abuse and unlawful deaths for 250 years before the civilized hearts of this nation recognized that “all men are created equal,” regardless of race or color. We went from slaves to free men and women, but without the freedom of equal rights, equal access to opportunity and equal protection under our nation’s laws. That struggle took another 100 years, culminating with the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Throughout my ancestors’ 350-year struggle the objective was always “one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.” When that liberty and justice finally became legally recognized as our civil rights, some of us ran through the doors of opportunity, some walked, and some chose to stay on the outside to criticize and complain. Still, our nation’s history has always been defined by one set of laws, one language and one flag of unity. This is what defines the United States of America!

Therein lies your biggest problem. The public perception is that you want a different set of laws, and you want to ignore current laws. You even want an accommodation of your language in our national anthem, and some of your people are flaunting flags other than the flag of the USA.

As a reminder, USA stands for United States of America. It does not stand for “Under Special Assumptions.”

There is no doubt that the USA is a nation of immigrants – legal immigrants. No one faults you for desiring the opportunity for a better life in the greatest country in the world. Although we do not consider your demonstrations a civil rights movement, there are some lessons you could learn from our 350-year struggle that may help you in your quest to come out of our nation’s shadows.

First, your illegal status is a non-starter for obtaining rights, benefits or a short cut to citizenship. It is creating massive public resentment and alienating those with compassionate hearts who might want to support a reasonable and fair road to your citizenship. You will not earn U.S. citizenship as long as you choose to ignore our laws, simply because you have been able to survive here illegally for a number of years.

Granted, our immigration system is cumbersome, inefficient and needs major overhaul, but it is a part of our system of laws. Maybe one of your objectives should be to encourage Congress to overhaul the system, making the process more efficient for every immigrant, which would make it easier and more efficient for you.

Second, your objectives are unclear, and your leadership uncertain. My ancestors’ objectives have always been crystal clear, even when our leadership had been questionable, as it is today. Not every so-called “leader” capable of attracting media attention represents African-Americans’ best interests. One of our greatest leaders was, obviously, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. during the Civil Rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s. Today, unfortunately, African-Americans are leadership-challenged, despite the great progress we have made. Beware of your leaders and those that would mislead you.

Third, get with the program on our use of the English language and respect and allegiance for our one flag. Second languages exist and are respected in many ethnic communities, but they learn the Star Spangled Banner in English. Our soldiers fight and die for one flag. Patriotism is alive and well in this country, just as it was when this nation was founded, and it will stay that way.

Your journey toward the full rights of U.S. citizenship may not take 350 years, but it will take clarity of purpose, certainty of leadership and a lawful, patriotic approach toward attaining the best that this nation has to offer. In this spirit of coming to our great country, you will eventually hear 300 million legal citizens say, “Welcome to America.”
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Old 03-06-2007, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Irving. TX
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Originally Posted by chloedog View Post
http://www.hermancain.com/news/press-opinion-051006.asp (broken link)

got to temper what I post. You can not empathize with the illegals (nor the slaves for that matter) unless you have walked in their shoes,

2 different worlds; Conquistadores, natural disaster, famine, war, and U.S. imperialsim. You have no idea how insulting you are, how uninformed you are, and how the relationship between our neighbors to the south is interwoven Historically, Economically, geographically, and socially and has been since Ponce de Leon (searching for the fountain of youth).

Of course, since you spent a year in England, that qualifies you to be a Stone Mason and allowed to post in the bashing of little people thread. (they have invited you haven't they).

on a personal opinion note: The letter...stupid.
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Old 03-06-2007, 01:16 PM
 
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[quote=mountianboomer;430492]"...blah...blah...blah..." you're right, my opinion about illegal immigration is not based on bigotry.

And the reason I'm constantly using it as a Rebuttal ? To this f*&^ing day, there are people like you Chloedog, that think the world revolves around the race or people of ones' kind. How many Latinos, Asians, Blacks, or Native Americans are posting here? on this issue of immigration ?QUOTE]

Black not a choice ????? Hmmmm

Must be that "Higher Education" thing that prevents me from understanding this statement.......
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Old 03-06-2007, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Irving. TX
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Can't all be as good as you dirty driller...
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Old 03-06-2007, 01:20 PM
 
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You have no idea how insulting you are, how uninformed you are,
Uninformed? I gave you two threads to look at and you chose to blow them off. You choose to be uninformed and turn a blind eye to the truth...that makes you ignorant. I have not seen one thing that you have posted that I would consider informative. You choose to log onto this forum and preach to everyone else how bigoted they are when in reality you are the one that is the bigot. You choose not to stand hand in hand with your American brothers. You would rather be a sepratist and claim yourself to be a "Texican"...which is the stupidist thing I have read in a long time. If I am insulting get over! You my "Texican" friend are an insult to all Americans and the American way of life. Today you have revealed to everyone that reads this thread your ignorance and your true self.
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Old 03-06-2007, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Irving. TX
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Uninformed? I gave you two threads to look at and you chose to blow them off. You choose to be uninformed and turn a blind eye to the truth...that makes you ignorant. I have not seen one thing that you have posted that I would consider informative. You choose to log onto this forum and preach to everyone else how bigoted they are when in reality you are the one that is the bigot. You choose not to stand hand in hand with your American brothers. You would rather be a sepratist and claim yourself to be a "Texican"...which is the stupidist thing I have read in a long time. If I am insulting get over! You my "Texican" friend are an insult to all Americans and the American way of life. Today you have revealed to everyone that reads this thread your ignorance and your true self.

You're completely right. We live in 2 different worlds. Good Luck to you
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Irving. TX
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Back to the topic:

"...Unsavory as it is for agents to go to prison while a drug smuggler walks, calls for the men to be freed rest on a precarious proposition — that it’s OK to shoot an unarmed suspect who isn’t an imminent threat to the safety of officers or anyone else. If Compean and Ramos hadn’t been prosecuted, that fundamental principle of American law enforcement would have had little meaning..."

The precedent would've been against everything some of us volunteer'd to fight for and died for. How many of you see that? How many don't?
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:12 PM
 
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How many Latinos, Asians, Blacks, or Native Americans are posting here? on this issue of immigration ?
*Raises hand*
I am in fact part Native American. So...

I think you just like to bicker when people don't see your way.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Irving. TX
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*Raises hand*
I am in fact part Native American. So...

I think you just like to bicker when people don't see your way.
So, who cares what you think? How much fun would this thread be if all the answere were the same?

P.S. my way? My Way is a Secret, and you won't know until 12/12/2012.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:24 PM
 
Location: I am no Longer Invisible!!!!!
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So, who cares what you think? How much fun would this thread be if all the answere were the same?

P.S. my way? My Way is a Secret, and you won't know until 12/12/2012.
Huh. Try making some sense. You posted previously "How many Latinos, Asians, Blacks, or Native Americans are posting here"? on this issue of immigration ?

He answered you. I think you're just on here to start fights, like another person.
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