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Old 11-29-2008, 03:18 AM
 
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Authorities say it all started when two women began punching each other near the registers. Each woman was accompanied by a man. Those two men, officials say, pulled out a handgun and shot each other.
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"The officers went inside and located two deceased, Hispanic male adults.
2 killed inside Toys R Us on Black Friday in Palm Desert, Calif. - 11/28/08 - Los Angeles-Southern California-LA Breaking News, Weather, Traffic, Sports - abc7.com

No word on their legal status or whether they're anchor babies. But I think we can hazard an educated guess...

 
Old 11-29-2008, 06:42 AM
 
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PALM DESERT, Calif. — The shooting occurred in a crowded toy store on the traditional start of the holiday shopping season, but authorities say it wasn't related to the bargain-hunting frenzy. Instead, two men pulled guns and killed each other after the women with them erupted into a bloody brawl, witnesses said.
Authorities released few details about the mayhem that broke out at the Toys "R" Us store around 11:30 a.m. Friday, sending scared shoppers fleeing. Riverside County sheriff's Sgt. Dennis Gutierrez said the fight was not over a toy and that handguns were found by the men's bodies. He refused to say whether the shooting was gang-related.
The victims were identified as Alejandro Moreno, 39, of Desert Hot Springs, and Juan Meza, 28, of Cathedral City. No one else was hurt.
Witnesses Scott and Joan Barrick said they were checking out of the store when the brawl began between two women, each with a man. The women were near the checkout area, but the Barricks did not think the women had purchases.
One woman suddenly started punching the other woman, who fought back as blood flowed from her nose, said Scott Barrick, 41. The man who was with the woman being punched pulled a gun halfway out of his pocket, then shoved it back in, he said.
"He pulled his gun right next to me. I turned to look for my wife, and she was already hiding," Scott Barrick said.
"I was scared," said Joan Barrick, 40. "I didn't want to die today. I really didn't want to die today, and I think that's what we were all thinking."
The other man pulled a gun and pointed it at the first man but forgot to **** it, Scott Barrick said. The first man tried to run but was blocked by the line of people, then ran back toward the store's electronics section as the other man fired his gun, he said.
The first man reached a dead-end in electronics, turned around and ran toward an exit, pulling his gun and firing back, Scott Barrick said.
"He went up to the cash register, he went to put his hand on the thing and he just went phoomp," he said, indicating the man fell.
He said he did not see what happened to the other man.
Palm Desert Councilman Jim Ferguson said police told him two men with handguns shot and killed each other.
"I think the obvious question everyone has is who takes loaded weapons into a Toys "R" Us?" he said. "I doubt it was the casual holiday shopper."
Ray Turner, 20, said he was two aisles away when two women began shouting and screaming at each other and he had a clear view of the fight until a crowd clustered around them. Both women had children, he said.
"We thought it was just a fight and then someone yelled: `He's got a gun! He's got a gun!' You really couldn't see nothing because there was a crowd," Turner said.
Rafael Gomez, 11, said he and his father had been in the store about 20 minutes before the shooting but were in a nearby Pizza Hut when they saw people pouring out of the store screaming.
"We just saw them running and crying. I was kind of scared," Rafael said. "We got lucky."
Toys "R" Us issued a statement expressing outrage over the violence.
"We are working closely with local law enforcement officials to determine the specific details of what occurred," the statement said. "Our understanding is that this act seems to have been the result of a personal dispute between the individuals involved. Therefore, it would be inaccurate to associate the events of today with Black Friday."
Palm Desert is a resort town about 120 miles east of Los Angeles.


National News - Witnesses: Fatal shooting followed toy store brawl


My money is on them being illegal aliens as well. It's time for the media to take off the PC gloves and call them out for what they are. By not doing so, it allows LaRaza more room to blur the lines and downplay their crime related, tax draining statistics. Two down a gazillion more to go.
 
Old 11-29-2008, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Assuming the killers are here illegally: it will take a few more atrocities like that to frighten the PC crowd into 'growing a pair' and putting the pro illegal crowd in their place.
 
Old 11-29-2008, 07:18 AM
 
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Assuming the killers are here illegally: it will take a few more atrocities like that to frighten the PC crowd into 'growing a pair' and putting the pro illegal crowd in their place.
While I agree that the pro-illegal pimps are a big part of the equation, it's the idiots in office who live in glass houses that are the biggest problem.

They are pushing amnesty which will only serve to benefit their corporate masters. They seem to have no knowledge or concern with regard to the overall tragic end result of granting citizenship to millions who are accustomed to living the lifestyle of a corrupt, barbaric 3rd world culture.

What we have experienced thus far at their hands is merely the tip of the iceburg. Leopards do not change their spots.
 
Old 11-29-2008, 07:22 AM
 
Location: southern california
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mexico is rampant with violence we are the overflow.
this illustrates that our streets are being affected.
DC's under the table NAFTA deal with mexico needs to stop.
 
Old 11-29-2008, 07:33 AM
 
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mexico is rampant with violence we are the overflow.
this illustrates that our streets are being affected.
DC's under the table NAFTA deal with mexico needs to stop.
After what I saw last night, we are no longer simply "overflow". The various drug cartels and gang members now number in the millions and have cells throughout the US.
 
Old 11-29-2008, 07:41 AM
 
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More air for me....

Darwin in action
 
Old 11-29-2008, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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More air for me....

Darwin in action
Point taken.

Just that those losers endangered innocent people by their actions.

Now: if said scum bag criminals wanted to 'off' one another in a vacant field-------I would supply the means for them to do so
 
Old 11-29-2008, 07:46 AM
 
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In the UK, carrying a gun is a automatic 5 stretch.

If those two men pulled out their guns in the UK, they would have been shot dead by police. Regardless of any child witnesses. They couldn't give a flying ****.
 
Old 11-29-2008, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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No word on their legal status or whether they're anchor babies. But I think we can hazard an educated guess...
Are you "taking bets" on this one, Full-Blooded?

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Just another example of Los Angeles turning into a Third World Country.
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