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Old 12-03-2008, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Maybe it's a few posters doing it repeatedly. Most of the time, people are unwilling to stand up against those on "their side" and say something about it. Many go along with it.
Maybe?
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Maybe?
Why don't you aspire for more than trolling, MK? I'm sure you are capable of discussion.
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Maybe it's a few posters doing it repeatedly. Most of the time, people are unwilling to stand up against those on "their side" and say something about it. Many go along with it.
I have never been one to follow the crowd. I stand by my convictions, and have no problem admonishing blatant racism or mistreatment. There are also many other regular posters who do the same. Camping! castigated a poster earlier for vilifying Jews. JDubs concurred, and so did I.
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I have never been one to follow the crowd. I stand by my convictions, and have no problem admonishing blatant racism or mistreatment. There are also many other regular posters who do the same. Camping! castigated a poster earlier for vilifying Jews. JDubs concurred, and so did I.
Jews aren't Latinos..most of the time.

Not that I'd accuse Camping! of vilifying Latinos from anything I can think of right now.
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Jews aren't Latinos..most of the time.
Oh, so only Latinos are worthy of respect?
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Pa
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This forum is notorious for it...
What this forum is notorious for is no matter how many times posters call out that they are against all illegals someone turns it into a anti-illegal = anti hispanic argument.
No matter how many times that its called out that the greater focus is on hispanic illegals because they constitute the greatest number of illegals thats called being racist.
Its not being anti-hispanic to focus on the facts. Fact the largest share of illegals are hispanic. Where do they come from? South of the border. They cross our southern border with Mexico to enter. But when ever someone calls out beefing up the border security they are called a racist. Add to this the fact that the Government of Mexico has made a point to distribute how to manuals for crossing illegally. This in turn causes a great deal of animosity towards the mexican Gov.
No I do feel hispanic citizens are bad folks. Not as a whole. But there are individuals that facilitate illegals after they arrive. How is this done?
1. By remaining silent. Even when the illegal is a thug.
2. By sheltering.
3. By taking part in rally's trying to advocate and justify an illegals right to be here.
These actions only fuel animosity towards the hispanic community. Is it fair that the community as a whole is painted with the broad brush? Not entirely but it is understandable given the lack of community outrage towards those who abuse our immigration system.
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Oh, so only Latinos are worthy of respect?
You're putting words in my mouth. By that I mean one doesn't have to hate all minorities to have some prejudice against one.

Why would you even accuse me of saying that?
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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What this forum is notorious for is no matter how many times posters call out that they are against all illegals someone turns it into a anti-illegal = anti hispanic argument.
No matter how many times that its called out that the greater focus is on hispanic illegals because they constitute the greatest number of illegals thats called being racist.
Its not being anti-hispanic to focus on the facts. Fact the largest share of illegals are hispanic. Where do they come from? South of the border. They cross our southern border with Mexico to enter. But when ever someone calls out beefing up the border security they are called a racist. Add to this the fact that the Government of Mexico has made a point to distribute how to manuals for crossing illegally. This in turn causes a great deal of animosity towards the mexican Gov.
No I do feel hispanic citizens are bad folks. Not as a whole. But there are individuals that facilitate illegals after they arrive. How is this done?
1. By remaining silent. Even when the illegal is a thug.
2. By sheltering.
3. By taking part in rally's trying to advocate and justify an illegals right to be here.
These actions only fuel animosity towards the hispanic community. Is it fair that the community as a whole is painted with the broad brush? Not entirely but it is understandable given the lack of community outrage towards those who abuse our immigration system.
Thank you!
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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You're putting words in my mouth. By that I mean one doesn't have to hate all minorities to have some prejudice against one.

Why would you even accuse me of saying that?
Because you stated Jews aren't Latinos, as though only Latinos are victims of racism.
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:03 PM
 
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What this forum is notorious for is no matter how many times posters call out that they are against all illegals someone turns it into a anti-illegal = anti hispanic argument.
No matter how many times that its called out that the greater focus is on hispanic illegals because they constitute the greatest number of illegals thats called being racist.
Its not being anti-hispanic to focus on the facts. Fact the largest share of illegals are hispanic. Where do they come from? South of the border. They cross our southern border with Mexico to enter. But when ever someone calls out beefing up the border security they are called a racist. Add to this the fact that the Government of Mexico has made a point to distribute how to manuals for crossing illegally. This in turn causes a great deal of animosity towards the mexican Gov.
No I do feel hispanic citizens are bad folks. Not as a whole. But there are individuals that facilitate illegals after they arrive. How is this done?
1. By remaining silent. Even when the illegal is a thug.
2. By sheltering.
3. By taking part in rally's trying to advocate and justify an illegals right to be here.
These actions only fuel animosity towards the hispanic community. Is it fair that the community as a whole is painted with the broad brush? Not entirely but it is understandable given the lack of community outrage towards those who abuse our immigration system.
I couldn't agree more.
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