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Old 12-17-2008, 03:16 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Yes, once again we are being confronted with the terrible results that can come from our seeming inability to prevent illegals from returning to our country. A man who has been deported possibly up to a dozen times has been arrested for the murder of a Cumberland County, NC woman.

The family says he just popped up one day, and they decided to offer the man work. Somehow, it ended with her murder and his arrest. Maybe if we had tried a little harder to make sure the deported stay deported this wouldn't have happened. Any thoughts?

Illegal immigrant charged in Fayetteville woman's death :: WRAL.com
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Old 12-17-2008, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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This clearly illustrates the need for stringent enforcement of our immigration laws, and closure of our borders. This man should never have been permitted to use our border as a revolving door of deportation/illegal reentry. Itís so sad this woman had to make the ultimate sacrifice for her acts of kindness.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I am waiting for the illegal alien apologists on this one.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:05 PM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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Oh don't you know the blame will be put on the family for putting the man to work? The criminal always becomes the victim in a bleeding heart, liberal world.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:11 PM
 
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I am waiting for the illegal alien apologists on this one.
As if ending illegal immigration would stop this kind of crimes from happening.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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As if ending illegal immigration would stop this kind of crimes from happening.
Cutting off the flow of illegal aliens would definitely slow that sort of crap down.

If the loser in question were not here to begin with---------he would not have committed the crime.

We have plenty of 'home grown talent' as it is---------we do not need additional scum imported.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:15 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Yes, once again we are being confronted with the terrible results that can come from our seeming inability to prevent illegals from returning to our country. A man who has been deported possibly up to a dozen times has been arrested for the murder of a Cumberland County, NC woman.

The family says he just popped up one day, and they decided to offer the man work. Somehow, it ended with her murder and his arrest. Maybe if we had tried a little harder to make sure the deported stay deported this wouldn't have happened. Any thoughts?

Illegal immigrant charged in Fayetteville woman's death :: WRAL.com
When can you people get it through your skulls that a coincedence is different than a correlation? There are plenty of stories about good-ol-boy whiteys who were born and raised in America who started their own meth lab and killed the competition. Seriously, it's news because it's rare. If all those illegals were criminals (they are generally MORE law-abiding because they don't want to be caught, most illegals come here to send money home) don't you think that San Diego would be more dangerous than East St. Louis, Detroit, Philadelphia or New Orleans? Illegal Immigrant population and violent crime are as related as birth date and shoe size. This guy should have been locked up, not deported if he was such a threat in the first place.

But of course you Mexican haters (because it's always about Mexico with you...forget the fact that many illegals come from other countries...) take this story and use it to fuel your hate mongering. Plus, who hires some strange man who just "pops up one day" to do some work? I NEVER have anyone work for me without some kind of legitimate reference.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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When can you people get it through your skulls that a coincedence is different than a correlation? There are plenty of stories about good-ol-boy whiteys who were born and raised in America who started their own meth lab and killed the competition. Seriously, it's news because it's rare. If all those illegals were criminals (they are generally MORE law-abiding because they don't want to be caught, most illegals come here to send money home) don't you think that San Diego would be more dangerous than East St. Louis, Detroit, Philadelphia or New Orleans? Illegal Immigrant population and violent crime are as related as birth date and shoe size. This guy should have been locked up, not deported if he was such a threat in the first place.

But of course you Mexican haters (because it's always about Mexico with you...forget the fact that many illegals come from other countries...) take this story and use it to fuel your hate mongering.
Who is hating 'Mexicans' due to them being from Mexico?

Those are some incendiary words there, pal.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:18 PM
 
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We have plenty of 'home grown talent' as it is (...).
Exactly. And I'm with leftydan on this one:
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If all those illegals were criminals (they are generally MORE law-abiding because they don't want to be caught, most illegals come here to send money home) don't you think that San Diego would be more dangerous than East St. Louis, Detroit, Philadelphia or New Orleans?
Actually it's because they are (criminal-) law abiding that lots of them are not getting deported.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:41 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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When can you people get it through your skulls that a coincedence is different than a correlation? There are plenty of stories about good-ol-boy whiteys who were born and raised in America who started their own meth lab and killed the competition. Seriously, it's news because it's rare. If all those illegals were criminals (they are generally MORE law-abiding because they don't want to be caught, most illegals come here to send money home) don't you think that San Diego would be more dangerous than East St. Louis, Detroit, Philadelphia or New Orleans? Illegal Immigrant population and violent crime are as related as birth date and shoe size. This guy should have been locked up, not deported if he was such a threat in the first place.

But of course you Mexican haters (because it's always about Mexico with you...forget the fact that many illegals come from other countries...) take this story and use it to fuel your hate mongering. Plus, who hires some strange man who just "pops up one day" to do some work? I NEVER have anyone work for me without some kind of legitimate reference.
First of all, no one said he was a known threat, just a known border jumper which makes him a criminal. Second, I don't know that he is Mexican. There are a lot of countries to the South of the US and he could have come from any of them. Maybe he's Brazilian or Peruvian, and just came in through Mexico. So your assertion that many illegals come from different countries is correct. But they mainly get here by traveling through Mexico. Not to many illegals can afford a first class ticket to America. So your statement about "Mexican haters" while inflammatory, is unfounded when refering to this thread.

As to your wise words about the correlation between illegals and violent crime, that all depends on where you live now doesn't it. Ever heard of MS-13 or the Latin Kings? How about Vatos Locos? While their presence is not to big a deal in North Carolina, we all know they are a growing problem in the larger urban centers.

As for your "good ol boy whiteys" comment, no one but you has used any racially motivated language on this thread. So please keep the rules of City Data in mind while posting.

And last of all, this is the Immigration Forum. People come here to talk about all subjects dealing with immigration as well as illegal immigration. And whether you like it or not, an illegal immigrant killing a woman who was good enough to try to help him is news. And it is perfect for discussion on the immigration forum. And as far as crimes committed by illegals being rare, I'd say you need to watch the news a little more often. And always keep in mind that our government is sympathetic to illegals because they are using them and they try to keep these stories about illegals as quiet as possible. So more than likely, we aren't even hearing about 5% or the crimes that are actually being committed by illegals. More's the pity.

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