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Old 12-20-2008, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Pa
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We have a lot of threads about illegals. Lets discuss possible reform that will benefit the USA and still provide for new blood in the way of immigragtion.
For example. Should we as a nation have minimum standards just as many other nations require.
Proof of ability to support themselves. How much money should they be required to have to be eligible for immigration? I say 25 g minimum or a sponcer willing to take the responsibility.
A profession that we are in need of. Doctors, nurses etc.
Should we set limits on nationality, ethnic background, race?
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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We have a lot of threads about illegals. Lets discuss possible reform that will benefit the USA and still provide for new blood in the way of immigragtion.
For example. Should we as a nation have minimum standards just as many other nations require.
Proof of ability to support themselves. How much money should they be required to have to be eligible for immigration? I say 25 g minimum or a sponcer willing to take the responsibility.
A profession that we are in need of. Doctors, nurses etc.
Should we set limits on nationality, ethnic background, race?
Feel free to chime in. Trolls beware this thread is for rational discussion only...
I'll rep you for starting a straight thread. Not hopeful for it, but see how it goes.
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I'll rep you for starting a straight thread. Not hopeful for it, but see how it goes.
I hope for a civil discussion of well thought out ideas. Maybe both sides of this issue can find some common ground.
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:21 PM
 
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We have a lot of threads about illegals. Lets discuss possible reform that will benefit the USA and still provide for new blood in the way of immigragtion.
For example. Should we as a nation have minimum standards just as many other nations require.
Proof of ability to support themselves. How much money should they be required to have to be eligible for immigration? I say 25 g minimum or a sponcer willing to take the responsibility.
A profession that we are in need of. Doctors, nurses etc.
Should we set limits on nationality, ethnic background, race?
Feel free to chime in. Trolls beware this thread is for rational discussion only...
What you have listed (add being able to speak and understand basic English) was the original intent and purpose of foreign nationals being allowed to LEGALLY immigrate to the US.

If they have nothing to offer this country that will allow them to come here legally we certainly don't need them here by the zillions dragging us into the depths of their third world culture, birth rates and massive levels of poverty.

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Old 12-20-2008, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Pa
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What you have listed (add being able to speak and understand basic English) was the original intent and purpose of foreign nationals being allowed to LEGALLY immigrate to the US.

If they have nothing to offer this country that will allow them to come here legally we certainly don't need them here by the zillions dragging us into the depths of their third world culture, birth rates and massive level of poverty.
So if I read you correctly you advocating having proficiency standard for English.
Also requiring them to have an identified skill that we need. Such as a nursing degree or another useful skill that we are short of.
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:35 PM
 
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So if I read you correctly you advocating having proficiency standard for English.
Also requiring them to have an identified skill that we need. Such as a nursing degree or another useful skill that we are short of.
You are correct sir. That is the original intent and purpose of legal immigration. Legal immigration only works if the parties entering this country have a citizen that will sponsor and bare responsibility for their presence and a skill set that is beneficial to this country.
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:40 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I would like to add ... If we are going to allow people to legally immigrate in order to escape poverty and to enjoy a better quality of life, then we need to offer that to individuals from other impoverish countries such as Asian, etc. It isn't fair for those wishing to immigrate the correct way to be forced to wait while others cut in line because of their proximity to the US.
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Fair enough.
What about those who due to the actions of this country are now victims in their own country. Example the people of Laos after vietnam. In other words a valid refugee status.
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:41 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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So if I read you correctly you advocating having proficiency standard for English.
Also requiring them to have an identified skill that we need. Such as a nursing degree or another useful skill that we are short of.
I think these are fair expectations to have for legal immigrants.
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:43 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Fair enough.
What about those who due to the actions of this country are now victims in their own country. Example the people of Laos after vietnam. In other words a valid refugee status.
Yes. Immigrating under the refuge status is fair as well if our country was responsible in any way to the chaos of another country.
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