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Old 05-06-2009, 06:46 AM
 
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Spain does get quite a lot of immigrants from Africa; including illegals: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006....gilestremlett

Also Spain gets a lot of Latin American immigrants.

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The USA takes in far more legal immigrants than does any other nation in the world, many more than your country brings in.

There are many people who want to come to the USA, the entire world cannot come here so there must be an orderly and fair process -- and legal. No one who comes here illegally should be given an advantage over all the many who are attempting to come here legally.

If you have a girlfriend and if you haven't been caught being here illegally, you and she should return to your country and start over the right way. Once you're found to be here illegally, getting married for a green card won't necessarily help your case.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:38 AM
 
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you guys are right.
others have no right to come and take your things.
there is no point in going through with this.
I hate this world.
I am sorry for molesting anybody in this thread.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I know I can be thrown into jail and deported.
look man, I just want to be happy I want to marry my girlfriend, (no she isn't having a baby or nothing like that) get citizenship (yes she is a Caucasian female of good family) so I can build a family with a house, a dog, and lots of children. I WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO STAY WITH MY GIRLFRIEND AND PROVIDE FOR HER.

if I decide to go back to Europe and live in that bull**** socialism where man loses their humanity it will be the day I give up on hope that this world can change... America is one of the last true democracies but it is falling now...
it's bull****.
it is sad.
Your issues are not the USA's problem------------we owe illegal aliens nothing outside of deportation.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:42 AM
 
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The USA takes in far more legal immigrants than does any other nation in the world, many more than your country brings in.

There are many people who want to come to the USA, the entire world cannot come here so there must be an orderly and fair process -- and legal. No one who comes here illegally should be given an advantage over all the many who are attempting to come here legally.

If you have a girlfriend and if you haven't been caught being here illegally, you and she should return to your country and start over the right way. Once you're found to be here illegally, getting married for a green card won't necessarily help your case.
I am not going back because people in spain dont care about anything.
people in the USA still have a little pride left, even though I don't see it as often.

again you are right i have no right to come here and take what is not mine.
but I am still going to try because is the only way I can be happy so sorry.

P.S. I just have to pay a $3k fine when i get married for being here Illegally and I might be able to pay less because i came here as a minor.

I have talked to lawyers.

Last edited by Dunctem; 05-06-2009 at 08:44 AM.. Reason: more info
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:45 AM
 
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Your issues are not the USA's problem------------we owe illegal aliens nothing outside of deportation.
you are completely right sir

but as soon as I become a citizen it will
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:43 AM
 
Location: The Wine Country, CA
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[quote=Dunctem;8661720]if you let those "illegals" become legals they will pay taxes man if that is what worries you

and i dont go back to my country because i fell in love with an american girl.
and it is not the country is people with no brain and no heart that make any place a socialism like Spain .
socialism takes humanity out of any human being.[/quote

The idea of merely allowing the illegals to become legals, will REWARD these people for breaking the law! What happened to working hard and learning the language of the country to become a citizen?

Maybe you should move back to your country temporarily and look into becoming a Citizen of the U.S. (The legal way) instead of sneaking around our country illegally..
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:29 AM
 
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The idea of merely allowing the illegals to become legals, will REWARD these people for breaking the law! What happened to working hard and learning the language of the country to become a citizen?

Maybe you should move back to your country temporarily and look into becoming a Citizen of the U.S. (The legal way) instead of sneaking around our country illegally..[/quote]

even though I never worked hard my dad did, and man if learning English was the way of getting citizenship I would be a citizen already. and well I guess I did sneak around the law, I just stayed for 3 years as a tourist no I am illlegal after 3 months.

oh well
just so u can be happy i will be attending college with 0% help from the government I DONT CARE I WILL PAY ALL THAT CRAP
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Gentlemen,
I am very sorry to hear all the senseless things you are saying. As you can see in the words you are writing, this country based in consuming and material things has made this happen.
the country has to help people so people vote for the government while they drain the pockets of everybody that can have any kind of money to help people for money. brothers what is happening? is helping a human being so bad? man needs to stop this money idea. money only makes it easy to sell your things. who ever said anything anybody owns is theirs? everything is from the universe of matter and energy and you are just part of it made of matter and energy. When you die you return yourself to the universe and everything you "own" returns to the same place. human beings cant create things, they can only take other things and combine them in any way their logic permits them.
man i am 18 I came from Spain 3 years ago I am an ILLEGAL immigrant and my family pays for any medical expense we have to pay and we have no insurance. My dad is a honest man a little crazy he said that I wasn't going to grow well in a country that takes care of everybody and there is no possibility or aspirations of having a business. yes I used to look up to the "American culture" but it resulted that this country is governed by stupid people and money. I dont know what is worst if the people of this country are so simple minded or that need money to survive. Freedom? no. DEATH...
You are welcome to leave at any time. Hope you enjoyed the visit.
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:39 AM
 
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I came to this country because I loved (not liked loved) the ideals and the freedom and opportunities to be self employed. I love the constitution and I wish people respected the constitution more, so that this country never falls into socialism.

I think USA should send all the slackers to some socialist country so that they can slack all they want and receive free health care, and free college.

and think I could be studying for free at any country in Europe, but i decide to stay here.
man it is not my country but i would fight for the ideals it once stood for, any day of my life.
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:48 AM
 
Location: The Wine Country, CA
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I came to this country because I loved (not liked loved) the ideals and the freedom and opportunities to be self employed. I love the constitution and I wish people respected the constitution more, so that this country never falls into socialism.

I think USA should send all the slackers to some socialist country so that they can slack all they want and receive free health care, and free college.

and think I could be studying for free at any country in Europe, but i decide to stay here.
man it is not my country but i would fight for the ideals it once stood for, any day of my life.
If you loved this country's ideals, freedoms, and opportunites as much as you say that you did, then maybe you should have attempted to become a citizen legally..
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