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Old 05-07-2009, 06:52 AM
 
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If you loved this country's ideals, freedoms, and opportunites as much as you say that you did, then maybe you should have attempted to become a citizen legally..
I am, I am getting married in love and I am paying the $3,000 fine.
that is the law
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:08 AM
 
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Spain does get quite a lot of immigrants from Africa; including illegals: Spain will urge Africa to stem immigrant tide | World news | The Guardian

Also Spain gets a lot of Latin American immigrants.
But not nearly as many as the USA gets.

One problem with out-of-control illegal immigration is it drives down the incentive and need to bring in more legal immigrants.

Why would a greedy CEO bother with sponsoring legal immigrants, paying them legal wages, and agreeing to the financial responsibility for his legal immigrants, plus there is a cost involved, if he can order up a box car of illegals who will work for dirt pay, get their health care from the taxpayers?

Get illegal immigration down and there might be more a need for legal immigrants. End family chain migration and there could be more legal immigration opened to those who want to come here to work.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Reeds Spring, MO
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I am, I am getting married in love and I am paying the $3,000 fine.
that is the law

And if in 3 years you decide that she is not the girl for you or vice versa, will you deport yourself? Since you are only staying because you are in love?
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:24 PM
 
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But what about proportionately? Spain is about the size of Texas, with about twice Texas's population.

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But not nearly as many as the USA gets.

One problem with out-of-control illegal immigration is it drives down the incentive and need to bring in more legal immigrants.

Why would a greedy CEO bother with sponsoring legal immigrants, paying them legal wages, and agreeing to the financial responsibility for his legal immigrants, plus there is a cost involved, if he can order up a box car of illegals who will work for dirt pay, get their health care from the taxpayers?

Get illegal immigration down and there might be more a need for legal immigrants. End family chain migration and there could be more legal immigration opened to those who want to come here to work.
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Over the Rainbow...
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If you hate our country so much, go back to Spain. I love this country and will fight tooth and nail to keep it from illegal leeches and illegal's that hate us.
Perfectly stated!! It's like that T-shirt that is out that says on the front: If you don't like America........then on the back of it - it says, Then get the hell out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:12 PM
 
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yes. but I wont have a reason to live anymore though. my life is my wife and my future kids
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:15 PM
 
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Perfectly stated!! It's like that T-shirt that is out that says on the front: If you don't like America........then on the back of it - it says, Then get the hell out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean this country is the best country. i never said that i hated America.
I am just saying that because of a paternalist government This country might become like europe a socialism
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:18 PM
 
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And if in 3 years you decide that she is not the girl for you or vice versa, will you deport yourself? Since you are only staying because you are in love?
well because I will have to swear my life to the USA flag and deny my European citizenship. I will become as American as you and a tourist to my mother land. is very simple.
and I don't believe that my girl is not the one.
and i don't believe in the braking of a marriage. I mean you are giving your word as a man. for me my name and my honor are my life.
marriage is supposed to be more than a caprice.
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