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Old 12-20-2008, 07:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Judge removes owner of Calif desert migrant park

Wow, I'd hate to be the next door neighbor.
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Yet another safe haven being closed down.
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:16 PM
 
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The property on the Torres-Martinez Desert Cahuilla Indian Reservation has about 300 mobile homes. The population can grow to 6,000 during the valley's harvest season.
That equates to 20 people per mobile home.
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Pa
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That equates to 20 people per mobile home.
And yet someone once called me a liar when I talked about 3 or 4 illegal families in a 2 bedroom apartment.....
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:38 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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And yet someone once called me a liar when I talked about 3 or 4 illegal families in a 2 bedroom apartment.....
Oh that's nothing! About 2 years ago right in the middle of Raleigh, NC a house full of illegals was evicted. It made the news, not because they were illegals, but because there were over 50 people living in a 3 bedroom home. They had knocked out several of the inner walls in the house in order to make more room. No wonder the immigrant population is one of the major driving forces of our economy. Plenty of extra money to go around if you only have to pay 50 bucks a month for your bills!
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I don't know if these people are necessarily illegals, or even immigrants for that matter. Lots of migrant workers that follow the fields by season are forced to shack up as they follow the crops.

I even know some Americans who are migrant workers that follow the crops from Southern California where their families are, and up to Salinas or Fresno where they spend 6-7 months of the year at. They are forced to shack up together to have somewhere to stay while doing work.

The ones I know aren't exactly poor, and could probably be considered lower middle class. They are involved with logistics I think. But when they live in the apartment, it might be 4 Latino men having to rent out a two bedroom apartment. Whatever saves money. At the end of the season they go back home to their families.

Things aren't always as they appear.

The park described is probably for the poorer migrant workers that are Mexican nationals, and do the actual harvesting or whatever. I don't know much about how it works, but there are lots of Mexican nationals working in agriculture that aren't immigrants. There is even charter buses that picks them up at the border and takes them to the work.
The conditions they live in can be pretty bad and packed, but it's mostly to save as much money as possible while working.
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I don't know if these people are necessarily illegals, or even immigrants for that matter. Lots of migrant workers that follow the fields by season are forced to shack up as they follow the crops.

I even know some Americans who are migrant workers that follow the crops from Southern California where their families are, and up to Salinas or Fresno where they spend 6-7 months of the year at. They are forced to shack up together to have somewhere to stay while doing work.

The ones I know aren't exactly poor, and could probably be considered lower middle class. They are involved with logistics I think. But when they live in the apartment, it might be 4 Latino men having to rent out a two bedroom apartment. Whatever saves money. At the end of the season they go back home to their families.

Things aren't always as they appear.

The park described is probably for the poorer migrant workers that are Mexican nationals, and do the actual harvesting or whatever. I don't know much about how it works, but there are lots of Mexican nationals working in agriculture that aren't immigrants. There is even charter buses that picks them up at the border and takes them to the work.
The conditions they live in can be pretty bad and packed, but it's mostly to save as much money as possible while working.
A place that houses large numbers of people (legally here or not) and has many flagrant safety hazards needs to be shut down.

Remember the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire in NYC early last century? That is why I have a major problem with bad living or working conditions outside of natural disaster/wartime.
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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A place that houses large numbers of people (legally here or not) and has many flagrant safety hazards needs to be shut down.

Remember the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire in NYC early last century? That is why I have a major problem with bad living or working conditions outside of natural disaster/wartime.
I agree, but I guess I was just doing the futile task of trying to separate that which is definitely illegal/immigration related and that which isn't necessarily/ isn't at all.
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Old 12-20-2008, 08:12 PM
 
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I don't know if these people are necessarily illegals, or even immigrants for that matter. Lots of migrant workers that follow the fields by season are forced to shack up as they follow the crops.

I even know some Americans who are migrant workers that follow the crops from Southern California where their families are, and up to Salinas or Fresno where they spend 6-7 months of the year at. They are forced to shack up together to have somewhere to stay while doing work.

The ones I know aren't exactly poor, and could probably be considered lower middle class. They are involved with logistics I think. But when they live in the apartment, it might be 4 Latino men having to rent out a two bedroom apartment. Whatever saves money. At the end of the season they go back home to their families.

Things aren't always as they appear.

The park described is probably for the poorer migrant workers that are Mexican nationals, and do the actual harvesting or whatever. I don't know much about how it works, but there are lots of Mexican nationals working in agriculture that aren't immigrants. There is even charter buses that picks them up at the border and takes them to the work.
The conditions they live in can be pretty bad and packed, but it's mostly to save as much money as possible while working.
What decent parent would want to expose their children to living with 20 people in a mobile home and the unsafe living conditions that come with it. Sorry those parents dont get a free pass for making poor choices.
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Old 12-20-2008, 10:37 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Just think if all these people held fast and protested in their home Countries. To think that these conditions are far better than what they left is just wrong. It is also so wrong these land barons get rich while we tax payers subsidize the workers.
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