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Old 12-29-2008, 01:54 PM
 
Location: southern california
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So now, immigrants = criminals???

What about some respect to your own ancestors?? People! remember, YOU are also an immigrant! I don't care if you are 5th generation immigrant, you are still an immigrant to AMERICA! YOU are here in AMERICA because YOUR ancestors IMMIGRATED to this land.

Remember your roots and have some respect for yourselves.
i do remember my roots. they shot bad guys on sight. the folks sneaking over are no longer nice guys looking for a better life them days are over. mexico is rampant with violence we are the overflow. gangbangers looking for a better life.
the kick in the head is when i was a kid i watched untouchables with elliiot ness on TV. today they would all be in jail and those they put there would be free.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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So, are you saying that equaling immigrants with criminals is OK and Lawful for this sovereign nation???
Illegal 'immigrants' are criminals factoring in ID theft, etc. Getting caught a second time crossing the border illegally is also a Felony.

Next!

Hell: I would not want to be an illegal alien in either Mexico or Spain------even 'Hispanics' are not immune.
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Old 12-29-2008, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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So now, immigrants = criminals???

What about some respect to your own ancestors?? People! remember, YOU are also an immigrant! I don't care if you are 5th generation immigrant, you are still an immigrant to AMERICA! YOU are here in AMERICA because YOUR ancestors IMMIGRATED to this land.

Remember your roots and have some respect for yourselves.
WRONG.
Illegal aliens = criminals
their employers= crooks and cheats
pro-illegals= enablers
officals who advocate sanctuary policies= cowards

Can i really be called an immigrant?

I'm black (forced into coming to the US)
Native-American heritage (they were here first)
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Old 12-29-2008, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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WRONG.
Illegal aliens = criminals
their employers= crooks and cheats
pro-illegals= enablers
officals who advocate sanctuary policies= cowards

Can i really be called an immigrant?

I'm black (forced into coming to the US)
Native-American heritage (they were here first)
You were forced to come to the U.S.? I doubt it.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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You were forced to come to the U.S.? I doubt it.
I was referring to slavery.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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WRONG.
Illegal aliens = criminals
their employers= crooks and cheats
pro-illegals= enablers
officals who advocate sanctuary policies= cowards

Can i really be called an immigrant?

I'm black (forced into coming to the US)
Native-American heritage (they were here first)
Interesting you cite your Native-American heritage saying they were here first. Aren't you guys against that kind of thing?
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Old 12-29-2008, 10:07 PM
 
Location: The Shires
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fact is that if the illegals weren't given low-paid jobs in the USA, they wouldn't cross the border. People seem to slam the illegals but not those who benefit from them.
I slam both.

If any business is caught hiring illegals and paying them "under the table", then that business deserves to be shut down for breaking the law. The blame doesn't rest solely on illegals themselves -- it also rests with those perpetrating their existence here.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, AUSTINtx
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To verify citizenship, we are required to complete an I-9. Documentation required are a dL and SS card. By law the employer is not allowed to request different or additional documentation if the documentation appears legit.

I remember reading that some illegals won a lawsuit against their employer for being fired after the employer found out they were illegal.

The gov. needs to put some teeth in their verification requirements.
Yeah they can hide behind those basic requirements but they know full well that when someone comes to HR not speaking a lick of English that there is a 95% chance they are illegal. Folks on H1B work visas almost always have good English skills as their white collar jobs would require it. I am sure these employers justify their hiring illegals b/c their competition is probably doing the same thing, i.e. there isn't a lot of moral high ground to go around.

My view is that it easier for the gov't to enforce laws on the employer than the illegals themselves. Why? One the employer has much more to lose as the illegals would just be deport "home" versus big fines for the employer. Two it is easier to monitor one company rather than dozens of individuals. Three is that systems are being put in place to authenticate documents that will make for forgeries that much harder.

Yes there would still be illegals paid under the table but there are rules against that too. Without the "carrot" of employment US companies, small and large, 90% of illegals would have no reason to be here............
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Old 02-14-2009, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Interesting you cite your Native-American heritage saying they were here first. Aren't you guys against that kind of thing?
'Native' American groups also came here at different times..............with newer ones conquering prior 'indigenous' peoples.

Again: just think of the Euros as a group of bigger and badder 'Indians'.

Hell: had it not been the Anglos/Hispanics; the Japanese may have colonized the New World after 1492.

It is called the luck of the draw of history.
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Old 02-14-2009, 08:43 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I just think there is a lot of non-sense talk around these boards regarding immigration, racism and other issues the world is facing.

I am sadden by the fact that some people here hide behind "our rights" and "us, Americans" and "our way" or even the American Law or history to validate completely retrograde thinking and beliefs, but hey! if it works for you, I am very happy you are happy with it... Good luck, best wishes to all of you
I'd have more respect for you Illegal Aliens if you'd get your #$# hand out of my pocket carrying my wallet.
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