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Old 12-28-2008, 05:20 PM
 
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But she was not the daughter of the couple next door doing chores. She was their maid.
Shyima was 10 when a wealthy Egyptian couple brought her from a poor village in northern Egypt to work in their California home. She awoke before dawn and often worked past midnight to iron their clothes, mop the marble floors and dust the family's crystal. She earned $45 a month working up to 20 hours a day. She had no breaks during the day and no days off.
The trafficking of children for domestic labor in the U.S. is an extension of an illegal but common practice in Africa. Families in remote villages send their daughters to work in cities for extra money and the opportunity to escape a dead-end life. Some girls work for free on the understanding that they will at least be better fed in the home of their employer.


General News - Child maid trafficking spreads from Africa to US (http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20081228/The.Slave.Next.Door/ - broken link)


Move over third world here we come . . .
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Old 12-28-2008, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Those scum bags should be jailed and made to do hard labor.
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Old 12-28-2008, 05:32 PM
 
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Those scum bags should be jailed and made to do hard labor.
Agreed. Things are really getting way out of control. It's way past time to fine/jail employers, cut off the freebies, deport as many as we can, and promptly seal the borders.
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Old 12-28-2008, 05:33 PM
 
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Ironically, from what I understand, the people engaging in this kind of slavery are well to do legal immigrants. Bad people all over.
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Old 12-28-2008, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Ironically, from what I understand, the people engaging in this kind of slavery are well to do legal immigrants. Bad people all over.
Some legal Egyptian immigrants have also been caught importing egyptian doctors to perform female circumcisions. I think we need to look a little harder at our applicants for visa's.
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Old 12-28-2008, 05:54 PM
 
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This shouldn't be illegal: parental authority can be transferred (like in cases of adoption, orphanhood, incarcerated parents, etc), and anything that can be transferred can be sold. She can sue for emancipation, perhaps with the help of a charity that specializes in those things, and holding her by force after she because automatically emancipated (say at age 18) is in fact a crime: violation of her self-ownership, aka slavery. It might even be possible to have child emancipation under the condition of adoption, which can then be used to rescue younger children, but still without using centralized government force.

Life doesn't owe anyone a free ride. Some people are born into bad circumstances, this is very unfortunate. Putting the government in charge of everything is not the way to make the world a better place, and it's no accident that the most socialist countries also have the lowest birthrates - government control of parenting discourages it. The way to deal with this is through voluntary ostracism of the bad people who mistreated this child, and then this problem would pretty much go away. In the modern high-tech world, keeping an indentured servant a secret would be nearly impossible, and after she is emancipated she can tell the truth. The only way those people could expect to get away with it is government corruption and incompetence.
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Alex I am speechless. I have no clue what to say to that post. But damn that is cold.
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:15 PM
 
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What you are in fact arguing for is Big Brother keeping an eye on every child in the world to make sure quality-of-life regulations aren't being violated - a horrendous police state, and the end of free humanity as we know it.

What I'm arguing for is free will. And yes, some people will do bad things some of the time - thus is a price of liberty. Whether they're more or less likely to get away with it under my system or yours is an open question.
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Old 12-29-2008, 11:00 AM
 
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What you are in fact arguing for is Big Brother keeping an eye on every child in the world to make sure quality-of-life regulations aren't being violated - a horrendous police state, and the end of free humanity as we know it.

What I'm arguing for is free will. And yes, some people will do bad things some of the time - thus is a price of liberty. Whether they're more or less likely to get away with it under my system or yours is an open question.
What I am saying is that a 10 year old child is not capable of making adult decisions. That a 10 year old child thousands of miles from her people her native land is a victim waiting to happen and these people abused her. Regardless of the laws, regardless of whose job it was to prevent such a thing from happening it is wrong...
I would make this couple clean sewers for 20hours per day for the same length of time they abused this child.
Compassion is free. It costs us nothing.
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