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Old 11-15-2009, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Every country has its own problems, we have also big time drug lords, also
the highest use of drugs in the world, that has nothing to do with immigration...
Agree....our cities have been war zones since before Capone. We are not ones to pass judgment.
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Old 11-15-2009, 04:54 PM
 
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And Americans complain they don't pay enough and there are no jobs.
Picking crops for a living is probably the only thing that most Americans won't do. For those jobs the farmers can use the unlimited visas to gain legal foreign workers. No, instead just like many employers hiring cheap illegal labor is more profitable for them. It is against the law!
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Picking crops for a living is probably the only thing that most Americans won't do. For those jobs the farmers can use the unlimited visas to gain legal foreign workers. No, instead just like many employers hiring cheap illegal labor is more profitable for them. It is against the law!
It's against the law until tomatoes are $8/lb!!
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Old 11-15-2009, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Every country has its own problems, we have also big time drug lords, also
the highest use of drugs in the world, that has nothing to do with immigration...
Are you saying that illegals have never been used to mule drugs?
Are you saying that the very same routes used by illegals are not used by drug smugglers?
Imagine what a hurt securing the borders would have on drug trafficing and or illegal drug use?
But I do agree legal immigration has very little to do with the drug problem
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Old 11-15-2009, 06:51 PM
 
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It's against the law until tomatoes are $8/lb!!
It's against the law no matter what the price of tomatoes are.
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Old 11-15-2009, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Pa
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It's against the law no matter what the price of tomatoes are.
Not to mention that the reality is that cost savings are not passed on to the consumer to begin with.
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:30 PM
 
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Not to mention that the reality is that cost savings are not passed on to the consumer to begin with.
Exactly, and the price of housing didn't go down when the illegals started taking jobs in construction either.
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Exactly, and the price of housing didn't go down when the illegals started taking jobs in construction either.
Very true. The greedy contractors pocketed the savings.
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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It's against the law until tomatoes are $8/lb!!
Obviously, you donít realize the profits the greedy employers reap from their illegal workforce are not shared with consumers. After all, they ARE greedy, and greedy people tend to also be selfish.

If anything, we will have less salmonella and other outbreaks from illegals relieving themselves on our crops. Perhaps you havenít noticed there hasnít been a decline in food prices. I donít know about your region of the country, but in my area, prices, including fruit and veggies, continue to climb. If we were truly benefiting from massive cheap labor, lettuce would cost $.05 a head.
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:14 PM
 
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Obviously, you donít realize the profits the greedy employers reap from their illegal workforce are not shared with consumers. After all, they ARE greedy, and greedy people tend to also be selfish.

To an extent they are, much of how to an extent Walmart's prices are lower. It really does depend on the demographic and the item.

If anything, we will have less salmonella and other outbreaks from illegals relieving themselves on our crops. Perhaps you havenít noticed there hasnít been a decline in food prices. I donít know about your region of the country, but in my area, prices, including fruit and veggies, continue to climb. If we were truly benefiting from massive cheap labor, lettuce would cost $.05 a head.

That's not a given. Salmonella and illegal immigration do not go hand in hand. There has been a slight decline in food prices nationally, due to the recession.

To be fair, there is much speculation, on both sides, considering illegal immigrants and farming.
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