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Old 11-02-2009, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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the problem with the terrorist gang aka kkk is that they are a small minority and will get wiped out quite easy.....
The KKK's Achilles Heel is the fact it is racist. I certainly would not support them.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:43 PM
 
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The KKK's Achilles Heel is the fact it is racist. I certainly would not support them.

Gang warfare, bigotry, hate, intolerance, ignorance..., hardly a solution to the immigrants situation, why not just absorb them, like we did with the irish, italians, etc. after all, for most of these indegenous mexican-americans, these are their ancestral land, mainly the southwestern USA...
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Gang warfare, bigotry, hate, intolerance, ignorance..., hardly a solution to the immigrants situation, why not just absorb them, like we did with the irish, italians, etc. after all, for most of these indegenous mexican-americans, these are their ancestral land, mainly the southwestern USA...
Your desperation is obvious

Till the (Hispanic) White men came and subjugated the Aztecs, etc.----------they had no claim to what is our Southwest, the latter lived in what is now Mexico. Besides: the Aztecs treated other Indian groups pretty damn bad as well so it is/was not just a Euro thing.

Again: the USA can choose whom we let in; if it means a bunch of (mostly Hispanic) illegal aliens are forceably deported-----------tough.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:14 PM
 
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Your desperation is obvious

Till the (Hispanic) White men came and subjugated the Aztecs, etc.----------they had no claim to what is our Southwest, the latter lived in what is now Mexico. Besides: the Aztecs treated other Indian groups pretty damn bad as well so it is/was not just a Euro thing.

Again: the USA can choose whom we let in; if it means a bunch of (mostly Hispanic) illegal aliens are forceably deported-----------tough.
Sounds like we have another reconquista on board. The Irish, etc. didn't come here with an axe to grind about "stolen land" as many of these Mexicans do. That's all we need is to absorb millions of them into our society seething with hatred for the "gringo".

You historical points are well taken but these reconquistas will never get it.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Sounds like we have another reconquista on board. The Irish, etc. didn't come here with an axe to grind about "stolen land" as many of these Mexicans do. That's all we need is to absorb millions of them into our society seething with hatred for the "gringo".

You historical points are well taken but these reconquistas will never get it.
Actually; it would behoove Mexico to get its house in order i.e. cripple the drug cartels for starters or we (the USA) may wind up finishing off which was left undone in 1848. One of the worst things that we need is a failed nation with a land border next to us.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:26 PM
 
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The unions have fought even prisoners making their own food or anything else;are you kidding.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:36 PM
 
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Sounds like we have another reconquista on board. The Irish, etc. didn't come here with an axe to grind about "stolen land" as many of these Mexicans do. That's all we need is to absorb millions of them into our society seething with hatred for the "gringo".

You historical points are well taken but these reconquistas will never get it.
This is a common misconception, just like the european immigrants, the ones from sob admire our system, and come here to make a positive contribution, like with any other cultures there are some bad apples, mainly the ones in the drug trade, which is in respose to the huge drug
consumption of drugs in our country, if we erradicate our drug abuse
in the USA, then that element will be eliminated.....
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Old 11-05-2009, 06:49 PM
 
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This is a common misconception, just like the european immigrants, the ones from sob admire our system, and come here to make a positive contribution, like with any other cultures there are some bad apples, mainly the ones in the drug trade, which is in respose to the huge drug
consumption of drugs in our country, if we erradicate our drug abuse
in the USA, then that element will be eliminated.....
No misconception at all. Many Mexicans think that the southwest was stolen from them and you know it. This philosphy still carries on with many American born of Mexican ancestry who are referred to as Chicanos. You admitted it yourself in an above post. As I said the immigrants of European extraction did not harbor such grievances. I would say that most immigrants and not just Mexicans do not come here wanting to make a contribution as their initial reason but for their own economic or personal gain. I am not saying that is neither good nor bad as many do learn to love our country after living in it for awhile. But a reality check is in order here.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Gang warfare, bigotry, hate, intolerance, ignorance..., hardly a solution to the immigrants situation, why not just absorb them, like we did with the irish, italians, etc. after all, for most of these indegenous mexican-americans, these are their ancestral land, mainly the southwestern USA...
And if the southwestern USA had stayed in Mexico's hand all the Mexicans would be trying to get into Oregon, Idaho, and Washington.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Sounds like we have another reconquista on board. The Irish, etc. didn't come here with an axe to grind about "stolen land" as many of these Mexicans do. That's all we need is to absorb millions of them into our society seething with hatred for the "gringo".

You historical points are well taken but these reconquistas will never get it.
The Irish didn't have it easy in the US either when they came here during the 1800s.
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