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Old 01-01-2009, 04:33 PM
 
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The reason 1.2 million annually amounted to 100 million in 40 years and is predicted to add up to another 100 million by 2035 (only 26 years) is because of the way the system currently works. If you're an illegal alien that gives birth to a child while in the U.S., the child is automatically considered American and is entitled to public assistance (welfare, food stamps, healthcare, etc.) and the mother gets to stay and benefits from that assistance as well. I'm not sure what the exact length of time is now but, it used to be that the mother was allowed to stay in the U.S. for 5 years after giving birth.....which means in order to stay longer, she needs to give birth every 5 years.
That is not true at all, ICE can deport the mother anytime they want. The only way the mother can stay is if the child turns 18 and files for them to become permanent residents.
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Old 01-01-2009, 08:39 PM
 
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That is not true at all, ICE can deport the mother anytime they want. The only way the mother can stay is if the child turns 18 and files for them to become permanent residents.
Exactly. Child would be deported along with parents but allowed to return when they turn 18 at which time they could (government expects) support themselves.
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Old 01-01-2009, 09:03 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Exactly. Child would be deported along with parents but allowed to return when they turn 18 at which time they could (government expects) support themselves.
So who handles the govt aid(aka social services) if the mother gets deported? The kid qualifies immediately since the parents can't/won't list any income because it is under the table.
This is what the Consulates do professionally, coach aliens how to get social services since their child born here is classified a citizen. Makes me want to puke.

As far as I am concerned it's like taking money straight out of the Salvation Army's red kettle while they aren't looking. It's called a THIEF.
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Old 01-01-2009, 09:05 PM
 
Location: southern california
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this reverse immigration could have a very big impact on mexico.
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Old 01-01-2009, 09:15 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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What a bizarro world we live in now. 20 years ago people crossed illegally to work seasonally then go home. Once they found the social service loopholes they then squatted to take advantage.

Fast forward to the 90's and we have created a host/parasite environment where millions of people in other Countries are taught to have kids and cast them towards the US border to send back money and pillage social services.

A more bizarre sci-fi film couldn't be produced. Usually the host victim perishes unless some cure for the blood-letting can be found. We are dying a slow death with these parasites.
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Old 01-01-2009, 09:31 PM
 
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So who handles the govt aid(aka social services) if the mother gets deported? The kid qualifies immediately since the parents can't/won't list any income because it is under the table.
This is what the Consulates do professionally, coach aliens how to get social services since their child born here is classified a citizen. Makes me want to puke.

As far as I am concerned it's like taking money straight out of the Salvation Army's red kettle while they aren't looking. It's called a THIEF.
I don't disagree. My point is they can only collect if they have a US address and reside in this country. Services are supposed to stop as soon as they leave the country. How people get around this is criminal but no different than career welfare recipients in my opinion.
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Old 01-02-2009, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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this reverse immigration could have a very big impact on mexico.
Not our problem--------we owe Mexico nothing.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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What a bizarro world we live in now. 20 years ago people crossed illegally to work seasonally then go home. Once they found the social service loopholes they then squatted to take advantage.

Fast forward to the 90's and we have created a host/parasite environment where millions of people in other Countries are taught to have kids and cast them towards the US border to send back money and pillage social services.

A more bizarre sci-fi film couldn't be produced. Usually the host victim perishes unless some cure for the blood-letting can be found. We are dying a slow death with these parasites.
Our damn toxic brew of do-gooders and Neo-Cons are the main enablers anymore along with other 'Americans' who are too greedy to pay proper wages yet cry like 3 YO's when the workmanship is shoddy.
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Old 01-02-2009, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Our damn toxic brew of do-gooders and Neo-Cons are the main enablers anymore along with other 'Americans' who are too greedy to pay proper wages yet cry like 3 YO's when the workmanship is shoddy.
BINGO!!!!!! The same goes for the crap that is made in China and sold here, not to mention the outsourcing of everything else.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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BINGO!!!!!! The same goes for the crap that is made in China and sold here, not to mention the outsourcing of everything else.
I am not real happy at buying Chinese made goods either..........unfortunately; it is becoming harder (or impossible) to buy electronics gear, etc. that is made in Japan/S Korea/ROC let alone the USA.
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