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View Poll Results: Since the government won't do anything about the illegal population, what should we do?
Encourage Americans to have 3 or more children 7 20.59%
Limit the number of children that illegals have to 2 children 2 5.88%
Other 25 73.53%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-01-2009, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Sugar Land, TX, USA
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I am trying to do this...starting small. I planted orange and lemon trees in my yard...hopefully we will have fruit in 2-3 years. I will try to plant some other vegetables too. I will try other fruits, vegetables, and nuts that grow in my climate.


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In Indiana any company who hires illegals and gets caughts looses their business license and pays a fine of $10,000


How about instead of stop eating fresh fruits and vegetables how about grow your own? Dont Use Taxis,Dont buy guns or alcohol,Make the OFFICIAL language of the United States ENGLISH,
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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Interesting posts..but I don't think we'll actually "do" anything about illegal immigration...it's pretty obvious by now that "we" (whoever that means) don't have the will, or the consensus, to "do" anything like that..

What WILL happen, in my opinion, is that things will simply 'self-level'...that over the coming years, America will deteriorate...will, in other words, become a "rougher. tougher, leaner, and meaner" place....and will LOSE its supremacy as a 'world leader' and a trend-setter. Most of this will be by OUR CHOICE..(we're already in the process of this now), and it will be the result of choices and decisions we're making today, as this is written. We're pretty much guaranteeing what sort of future we can expect, by what we're doing (or not doing) today.

Meanwhile, the "Third World" nations....the 'contributors' to today's illegal immigration.... will improve..(whether in raw 'numbers', or simply in relation to their position compared to the US)....and eventually, illegal immigration into the US will slow down to a trickle..because there will be little reason for any 'outsider' to want to come here. At that point, the US will have lost (or abdicated) its position as 'world leader', and will have become just another everyday 'run-of-the-mill' country....no better, nor worse, than a dozen others...and the effort required to immigrate here, and the 'payoff' for doing so, just won't be worth it.

No 'attraction', therefore no illegal immigration...'problem solved'.
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Old 01-01-2009, 06:14 PM
 
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No 'attraction', therefore no illegal immigration...'problem solved'.
Almost nobody here answered the question of the original post.

I think we can all agree there is a "problem" with massive illegal immigration. What's causing it? Why would people cross a searing desert to come here and pick vegetables or slaughter cows? There's plenty of that sort of work in Mexico.

Answer? WELFARE HANDOUTS.

Somehow, Big Bro is internally profiting from this, otherwise it would cease or wouldn't have been available in the first place.

Within a decade I foresee large demonstrations and tax revolts. Civilian-led pogroms also come to mind. It's going to be a riot!
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Old 01-01-2009, 06:43 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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How would YOU operate those cluster bombs without the liberals and moderates since the overwhelming majority of you chickenhawk neoCONS are total cowards and are nothing more than cheerleaders.

once again for your enjoyment..THE PROOF neoCONS are girlymen.
Who served?

too bad for you I as a patriotic american and not a neo-fascist liberal, and I did serve in the military.


as far as calling people cowards, why not come out and give your credentials and DD214 for your proof of heroism.
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Old 01-01-2009, 06:45 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Amnesty. It's the only answer...

force the illegal aliens out of the USA is another way, amnesty is a last option and should be considered last and 100's of years down the road.
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Old 01-01-2009, 06:47 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Cut off Health care for Illegals. Put them on a Bus to Mexico.
Change the laws: If you are here illegally and have kids...they do not become US citizens.
They are still Illegal.
For every undocumented aliens here...withhold an equivalent amount of $$$$ from the governments of those illegals until the governments decide to build up their economies instead of shipping their unwanted here.
Make English the official language...No more Push 1 for English 2 for#$$%^
All tests must be in English.

I look at it this way about anchor babies, they are in fact american citizens, but only at their majority of age 18, until then they are the same citizenship of their parents if the parents are here illegally.
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Old 01-01-2009, 07:00 PM
 
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We should vote out all politicians currently in office. Just look what a good job they have done for us, our country is practically in ruins! The government needs a complete blood transfusion! Vote The Bums Out All Of Them, No Exceptions!

As for the illegal aliens, how about enforcing the laws already on the books! Why should they be able to break our laws just because they make a profit for big business? We need to OUTLAW Lobbyist contributions to our politicians because it's nothing but BRIBES! Legal bribes making our politicians into big whores, voting for whatever big business wants them to vote for! The politicians ignore "The Will Of The People", only because we let them! Time to change the game plan! VOTE THE BUMS OUT from the dog catcher to the President!
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Old 01-01-2009, 07:10 PM
 
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Amnesty. It's the only answer...
That was tried in 1986 and it did not work.
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Old 01-01-2009, 07:21 PM
 
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That was tried in 1986 and it did not work.
Well, it worked in a sense....3 million people got a 'break'....and 20 to 30 million OTHER people saw this as setting a precedent for FURTHER amnesties...."If they could do it for THEM, they can do it for US"..

The "gratitude" produced by the '86 amnesty is mostly long forgotten...but the sense of frustration and 'entitlement' that it incited in others is stronger than ever.
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Old 01-01-2009, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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too bad for you I as a patriotic american and not a neo-fascist liberal, and I did serve in the military.


as far as calling people cowards, why not come out and give your credentials and DD214 for your proof of heroism.
Settle down please: I suspect that you and muleskinner are on the same page.

For the record: I am an Old School Liberal------------unless discussing illegal aliens (they need to disappear from the USA) and Second Amendment Rights (I believe in gun control----------hitting my target).
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