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Old 01-05-2009, 11:48 AM
 
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Yes it is when it's the main job requirement for many jobs. No foreign language should be a job criteria except for those jobs such as language translation, foreign language instructor.

I live in a city where more people speak only Spanish than speak only English, and where 74% speak primarily Spanish. It's much easier for someone who speaks no English to find a job than one who speaks no Spanish, and there is widespread discrimination against non-native speakers of Spanish.
Bingo. Nail on head.
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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The point being, why is there such a need for people to speak Spanish if the customers are in the US? Well, it's because we have a huge population of Illegal Aliens that speak Spanish and refuse to assimilate that's why.
Don't kid yourself that the only Spanish speakers in this country are illegal aliens.
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Old 01-05-2009, 08:38 PM
 
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Becoming more and more like Mexico is not better for us. Globalism is proving to be very destructive, our economy is doing very poorly and we're facing debts that can never be repaid.

The issue with American blacks was a whole different issue, that had nothing to do with a foreign language replacing our language, and a complete disregard for our laws by large numbers of foreign people who felt they had a right to break whatever of our laws they pleased.

The USA has the highest level of legal immigration of any nation in the world. There is no "right" of any foreign people to break the immigration laws of this country.
Of course different issues are different, you guys keep saying the same stuff over and over, you need to deal with a new reality: the white man is no longer "the boss", the black man is no longer "the boy", and Spanish is an important part of our culture, if you just learn to deal with that, you may someday find happiness.
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Old 01-05-2009, 09:00 PM
 
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Becoming more and more like Mexico is not better for us. Globalism is proving to be very destructive, our economy is doing very poorly and we're facing debts that can never be repaid.

The issue with American blacks was a whole different issue, that had nothing to do with a foreign language replacing our language, and a complete disregard for our laws by large numbers of foreign people who felt they had a right to break whatever of our laws they pleased.

The USA has the highest level of legal immigration of any nation in the world. There is no "right" of any foreign people to break the immigration laws of this country.
Globalism isn't totally to blame. World trade has existed for centuries. Big global business (banks, energy, the business of stocks and speculation, etc) are more to blame and now the world is paying the consequences. This was inevitable as it is nothing more than a world correction. This will pass in time as it is all cyclical.

Now as for breaking laws by any group legal or illegal the fundamental problem in the US is that we do not have enough law enforcement to police us. In addition, we as a society have now come to accept certain crime and select which crime we need to pursue and prosecute. Illegal immigration is still near the bottom of the "prosecute" totem pole in the grand scheme of things.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Of course different issues are different, you guys keep saying the same stuff over and over, you need to deal with a new reality: the white man is no longer "the boss", the black man is no longer "the boy", and Spanish is an important part of our culture, if you just learn to deal with that, you may someday find happiness.
Just remember you words there:

The Black man is indeed no longer the 'boy': in anything; more and more American Blacks want the illegal aliens gone! Face it: the illegal alien menace is going a long ways towards shattering the last Black/White barriers---------can you see the irony??

Again: you lose!
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Just remember you words there:

The Black man is indeed no longer the 'boy': in anything; more and more American Blacks want the illegal aliens gone! Face it: the illegal alien menace is going a long ways towards shattering the last Black/White barriers---------can you see the irony??

Again: you lose!
Interesting claim. You should really hit the streets of the nearest Black majority neighborhoods, and conduct a survey on whether or not that's true.
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Old 01-07-2009, 05:16 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Don't kid yourself that the only Spanish speakers in this country are illegal aliens.
You somehow extrapolated the word "only" in my sentence?


Let me guess what you think. We have millions of legal immigrants that can't speak English only Spanish?
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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when latinos and koreans do this, turn straw into gold, its gota hurt to watch for the AA.
Really?

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Black-owned businesses are among the fastest-growing segments of the American economy, the government said Tuesday.

The number of black-owned businesses grew by 45 percent from 1997 to 2002, more than four times the national rate for all businesses, according to a report by Census Bureau.

Revenues from black-owned businesses increased by 25 percent during the period, to about $89 billion.
Black-owned businesses among fastest growing - Small business- msnbc.com

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Washington DC’s northwest U Street corridor proudly dubbed, “Black Broadway,” served as the entertainment district for the African American community from the early 1900’s to the 1960’s. Also known as the Shaw neighborhood, a burgeoning middle-class African American community, comprised of Black-owned businesses and cultural hot spots.

Today’s U Street corridor is undergoing a steady revitalization, which includes the renovation and restoration of many of DC’s Jazz shrines and cultural landmarks. The birth and resurrection of several clubs, restaurants and businesses, now appeal to a diverse range of consumers, audiences and cultures.
U St. NW aka the Black Broadway - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootbearwdc/sets/1543233/ - broken link)

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Black Americans are becoming entrepreneurs at a rapidly increasing rate and Pittsburgh is following the trend, a new report issued by the Census Bureau suggests.

The report, "Survey of Business Owners: Black-Owned Firms: 2002," says that between 1997 and 2002, the number of black-owned businesses in the United States rose 45 percent to 1.2 million, while the combined revenue increased 25 percent to $88.8 billion.
Black business owners on rise
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Forced out of traditional career tracks, African-Americans are building their own and their entrepreneurial wealth may be an anchor for the revitalization of struggling urban communities, according to just-released Census Bureau research and urban economists.

Businesses owned by black entrepreneurs grew 45% nationally four times the growth rate for all businesses between 1997 and 2002. In Wisconsin, the number of black-owned businesses rose 38%, and in the city of Milwaukee, 32%, according to the report.

They're making money faster than the national average, too. For both the nation and the city, revenue of black-owned businesses rose 25%, compared to 22% for all businesses....
Black-owned businesses on rise; But state, Milwaukee rates while strong lag behind U.S. growth | Article from The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel | HighBeam Research
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Old 01-07-2009, 04:13 PM
 
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Great post my sister! Rep points coming your way!
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:15 PM
 
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Just remember you words there:

The Black man is indeed no longer the 'boy': in anything; more and more American Blacks want the illegal aliens gone! Face it: the illegal alien menace is going a long ways towards shattering the last Black/White barriers---------can you see the irony??

Again: you lose!

According to you it must be something like this; Tyrese told Jerome: "Hey bro' lets join the immigration radicals against hispanics"

Reality; over 70% hispanics joined over 90% african-americans to help elect president Obama. With these numbers things will be rough for non hispanic/ non african american candidates,
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