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Old 01-02-2009, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Assimilation is needed because that is what has so far held the US together. Frankly, I see this trend of viewing allegiance to one's ethnic group as more important than allegiance to America as potentially posing serious problems. When enough people decide that their 'group', whatever it may be, is more important than their role as a citizen of the US, we will splinter into a number of disagreeing factions similar to the what happened in the former Yugoslavia.

Hispanics who are probably here illegally have also destroyed many neighborhoods by clown houses, cars parked on lawns and unacceptable behavior. Since the invasion began in earnest, I suspect more neighborhoods have been trashed than have been rebuilt.

I would use our multicultural military as being evidence against this.
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:41 PM
 
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I would use our multicultural military as being evidence against this.
Why would someone whose primary allegiance is to his hispanic ethnic group (as an example) join the US military? Is he only going to fight to defend states with large hispanic populations? What if he gets assigned to a platoon where there are no other hispanics? Is he going to decide he will not risk his life to defend his fellow soldiers because they are not hispanic? What if his sargeant is Asian American, is he going to refuse to listen to him?
The US military would not exactly be a magnet for people who are only concerned with things that will accrue benefits to their particular group.
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:44 PM
 
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Assimilation is needed because that is what has so far held the US together. Frankly, I see this trend of viewing allegiance to one's ethnic group as more important than allegiance to America as potentially posing serious problems. When enough people decide that their 'group', whatever it may be, is more important than their role as a citizen of the US, we will splinter into a number of disagreeing factions similar to the what happened in the former Yugoslavia.

Hispanics who are probably here illegally have also destroyed many neighborhoods by clown houses, cars parked on lawns and unacceptable behavior. Since the invasion began in earnest, I suspect more neighborhoods have been trashed than have been rebuilt.
Preach on sista, preach on . .
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I would use our multicultural military as being evidence against this.
Considering that English is the language of our Armed Forces with the obvious exceptions of Special Forces, etc.-------------there is nothing 'multicultural' about our military.
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Why would someone whose primary allegiance is to his hispanic ethnic group (as an example) join the US military? Is he only going to fight to defend states with large hispanic populations? What if he gets assigned to a platoon where there are no other hispanics? Is he going to decide he will not risk his life to defend his fellow soldiers because they are not hispanic? What if his sargeant is Asian American, is he going to refuse to listen to him?
The US military would not exactly be a magnet for people who are only concerned with things that will accrue benefits to their particular group.
What an insult.
I have plenty of family who have fought for this country, as well as a couple of relatives who gave their lives in Vietnam.

They were very proud of their Hispanic heritage, but gave it all for their country, the U.S.

You are spewing a lot of BS

Hispanic men have been giving their lives for this country for several decades. How can someone say something so ignorant?
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:49 PM
 
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Considering that English is the language of our Armed Forces with the obvious exceptions of Special Forces, etc.-------------there is nothing 'multicultural' about our military.
Our military represents America with people coming from all walks of life in this country in a common unit. It is very multicultural.
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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What an insult.
I have plenty of family who have fought for this country, as well as a couple of relatives who gave their lives in Vietnam.

They were very proud of their Hispanic heritage, but gave it all for their country, the U.S.

You are spewing a lot of BS

Hispanic men have been giving their lives for this country for several decades. How can someone say something so ignorant?
And most of the 'Hispanic' military men/women desired to be American------------not Mexican or another nationality.
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:50 PM
 
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Considering that English is the language of our Armed Forces with the obvious exceptions of Special Forces, etc.-------------there is nothing 'multicultural' about our military.
Your point is? There is nothing in the law to prevent member of the armed forces from speaking to each other in any language they want.
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:51 PM
 
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What an insult.
I have plenty of family who have fought for this country, as well as a couple of relatives who gave their lives in Vietnam.

They were very proud of their Hispanic heritage, but gave it all for their country, the U.S.

You are spewing a lot of BS

Hispanic men have been giving their lives for this country for several decades. How can someone say something so ignorant?
I agree, you can be proud of your hispanic heritage without being a "traitor" to the U.S.
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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And most of the 'Hispanic' military men/women desired to be American------------not Mexican or another nationality.
She's talking about allegiance to their ethnic group. Not nationality. And plenty of Hispanics as well as Hispanics who were very much connected to their ethnicities STILL served for the U.S., and gave about as much for this country as Billy Bob did.

Think about all the Blacks as well as Latinos giving their lives for a country that barely cared about them in World War II and Vietnam. Pride of ethnicity doesn't necessarily negate allegiance to the country. We are not a homogeneous country, and never will be.
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