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Old 01-03-2009, 11:15 AM
 
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Your sister-in-law may be hard working, the kids might be great kids, but there really is a limit to how many people can come here and be provided for by the taxpayers. There's a limit -- and right now immigration is out-of-control. There are far too many who need and far too few us who must provide for their every need.

$9 an hour to supprt 3 children isn't feasible in this country, we have an extremely high cost of living here. That's one of the problems with rampant immigration. We're destroying our economy and our standard of living very quickly.
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I would suggest she go back to Canada with her children. She can return when she has sufficent financial resources to be self supporting
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:33 AM
 
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I would suggest she go back to Canada with her children. She can return when she has sufficent financial resources to be self supporting

That sounds cold but we're to the breaking point, we simply cannot provide all the free medical care and everything else that even legal immigrants are demanding.

I know of a family that just moved over from Mexico, the father is the only wage earner making $7 an hour and no health insurance. His wife doesn't work and they have 4 children. They also came in legally, sponsored by a relative who has no intention of actually paying anything toward their support. 6 people trying to live off $7 an hour income.
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The American dream isn't to move to this Country and suck off the Govt teat.
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Old 01-03-2009, 05:07 PM
 
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Not to mention - the American Dream isn't going to be reached if the employers are allowed to bring in whatever number of illegals they feel they need to bring wages and benefits way way down.

Why are jobs paying less and less and offering fewer benefits? It's because of an unlimited labor pool. Many illegals would think $9 an hour no benefits are excellent wages -- and that means a legal immigrant is not going to see wages go up, nor of course will citizens.

Massive, completely unrestrained immigration benefits only a few, not the citizens, not those who abide by the laws and come legally. The cheap labor employers of course benefit by having a taxpayer subsidized work force that will never see much in the way of pay increases or benefits we used to take for granted.
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Old 01-03-2009, 05:26 PM
 
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Sponsors are legally responsible for taking care of legal immigrants.... why should taxpayers be responsible for someone else's problems? As part of sponsorship, they MUST have reviewed your case and found you to have clearly enough money to support them... if you didn't plan on supporting them for at least 10 years, then you should NOT be a sponsor... no state or government entity is at fault because it was CLEARLY told to you when you elected to become a sponsor... you didn't read the rules, and it isn't the fault of taxpayers who already have more problems to deal with... we don't just hand them citizenship so they can go to the welfare department afterwards...
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:15 PM
 
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The Republicans love to bash immigrants and illegal immigrants with lines like "they get free medical care and food stamps." Of course they never let the TRUTH get in the way of politics. Here are the FACTS:

1. Illegal aliens qualify for NOTHING but emergency care in this country. If they get sick or get cancer, they are sent home to die. No chemo and no treatment is given to them at all.
2. Legal immigrants also qualify for nothing except for emergency care and immunizations for children. They must be in the country for 5 years before they qualify for ANY government program including Section 8, foodstamps, SCHIP, Medicare, Medicaid. They must be present and WORK for 10 years before they qualify for Social Security benefits of any kind. If a child of a LEGAL immigrant gets cancer and does not have PRIVATE insurance, they too are sent home to DIE and no treatment is given.
You should get your facts straight and do some reading and stop protecting your Brotherhood of illegal aliens!

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ILLEGAL ALIENS EXTENT OF WELFARE BENEFITS
[SIZE=2][/SIZE]http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf

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With nearly two-thirds of illegal aliens lacking a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, not their legal status or heavy use of most social services.


Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:49 PM
 
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The illegal aliens have been recieving benefits for a long time. They don't come for the jobs they come for the BENEFITS! Now, there are 20 million illegal aliens in the United States. The government is slow to release any new information to the public.

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In fiscal year 1995, about $1.1 billion in AFDC and Food Stamp benefits
were provided to households with an illegal alien parent for the use of his or her citizen child.

In fiscal year 1995, an estimated $1.13 billion—$700 million under the AFDC program and $430 million in Food Stamp benefits—was provided to
households in which either the head of household or his or her spouse was
an illegal alien.

An estimated 5 million illegal aliens resided in the United States in 1996,
according to INS.

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ILLEGAL ALIENS EXTENT OF WELFARE BENEFITS
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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The illegal aliens have been recieving benefits for a long time. They don't come for the jobs they come for the BENEFITS! Now, there are 20 million illegal aliens in the United States. The government is slow to release any new information to the public.

*****

In fiscal year 1995, about $1.1 billion in AFDC and Food Stamp benefits
were provided to households with an illegal alien parent for the use of his or her citizen child.

In fiscal year 1995, an estimated $1.13 billion—$700 million under the AFDC program and $430 million in Food Stamp benefits—was provided to
households in which either the head of household or his or her spouse was
an illegal alien.

An estimated 5 million illegal aliens resided in the United States in 1996,
according to INS.

SOURCE:

ILLEGAL ALIENS EXTENT OF WELFARE BENEFITS
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf
Again the child is a CITIZEN and as such they are entitled to ALL the benefits of a USA citizen. What I am pointing out is that IMMIGRANTS- even legal ones- get NO benefits at all. The benefit is for the child citizen and not the illegal parent. This is true not only of the USA but of all countries. If you and your wife drive up to Canada and have your children there, as Canadian citizens they will be entitled to services such as the healthcare system in Canada but you will not be so entitled.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Your sister-in-law may be hard working, the kids might be great kids, but there really is a limit to how many people can come here and be provided for by the taxpayers. There's a limit -- and right now immigration is out-of-control. There are far too many who need and far too few us who must provide for their every need.

$9 an hour to supprt 3 children isn't feasible in this country, we have an extremely high cost of living here. That's one of the problems with rampant immigration. We're destroying our economy and our standard of living very quickly.
Me and my wife and the other sisters who sponsored them also help take care of their needs. She can handle the basic things like rent and utilities. The rest of us pitch in with clothes, school expenses and cable TV and telephone for them. Except for health insurance, they are doing fine on their own and get nothing from the government. The oldest has graduated and is in nursing school and the middle one will graduate as an honour student in May and the youngest in 2 years. They will all become good Americans. I am not worried at all about their ability to do that. They all get good grades and study hard and they all speak good English. I just thought that SCHIP (Peachcare here) would be available for them as it is for everybody else that qualifies. They are all in good health and probably will not need to use the system anyway.
And the point of the post was to point out that neither ILLEGAL or even LEGAL aliens get any services from US taxpayers.
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