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Old 01-08-2009, 07:57 PM
 
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"If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.' "

Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

"First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

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Old 01-09-2009, 01:00 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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more drivel!!! ya, canada is really breaking up and experiencing civil war as we speak!!

whats the point of posting all these articles? this is what one looney thinks. thats like citing those aztlan websites. its not a reputable source.

dam JDM takes another loss.

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"If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.' "

Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

"First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

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Old 01-09-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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What's looney is to think it would be ok to have an army that cannot communicate with itself.
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Oh goddddddd.

Believe it or not, this isn't the only country where are a lot of foreign language is being spoken. And there isn't a whole lot of tension between these cultures here in the U.S.

Someone going through this forum, or hanging out with the local nativist organization might think differently...but on the streets, things seem copacetic to me.

The whole multiculturalism=war/destruction of America/end of the world/cancellation of your favorite tv series- theory is paranoid junk.
Mexican culture and American culture aren't nearly different enough to cause too much of a ruckus.
They are both European based Christian cultures that have very superficial differences.

This isn't an Israeli-Palestinian type situation. This is the good old, several time repeated fear of the newcomers type situation. But like history has shown time and time again, when the newcomers stop being newcomers(as in the next generation), it's all good.

Illegal immigration is one thing, and that needs to be addressed somehow and stopped.
The whole multiculturalism, destruction of America is another thing, and in my opinion garbage.
Oops! As a non-assimilating Hispanic, I mean basura.
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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more drivel!!! ya, canada is really breaking up and experiencing civil war as we speak!!

whats the point of posting all these articles? this is what one looney thinks. thats like citing those aztlan websites. its not a reputable source.

dam JDM takes another loss.

More anchor blatherings. The staggering number of uninvited illegal Mexican scabs in the US is creating balkinization at an ever accelerated pace.
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Oh goddddddd.

Believe it or not, this isn't the only country where are a lot of foreign language is being spoken. And there isn't a whole lot of tension between these cultures here in the U.S.

Someone going through this forum, or hanging out with the local nativist organization might think differently...but on the streets, things seem copacetic to me.

The whole multiculturalism=war/destruction of America/end of the world/cancellation of your favorite tv series- theory is paranoid junk.
Mexican culture and American culture aren't nearly different enough to cause too much of a ruckus.
They are both European based Christian cultures that have very superficial differences.

This isn't an Israeli-Palestinian type situation. This is the good old, several time repeated fear of the newcomers type situation. But like history has shown time and time again, when the newcomers stop being newcomers(as in the next generation), it's all good.

Illegal immigration is one thing, and that needs to be addressed somehow and stopped.
The whole multiculturalism, destruction of America is another thing, and in my opinion garbage.
Oops! As a non-assimilating Hispanic, I mean basura.
Maybe you underestimate the fear of the staggering numbers of uninvited illegal Mexican scabs everywhere in this country. A corrupt dysfunctional fed gov that refuses to kick the illegal Mexican scabs out creates a seething just below the surface. There is balkanization everywhere now where there didn't used to be. People like you are balkanizing.
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:00 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Oh goddddddd.

Believe it or not, this isn't the only country where are a lot of foreign language is being spoken. And there isn't a whole lot of tension between these cultures here in the U.S.

Someone going through this forum, or hanging out with the local nativist organization might think differently...but on the streets, things seem copacetic to me.

The whole multiculturalism=war/destruction of America/end of the world/cancellation of your favorite tv series- theory is paranoid junk.
Mexican culture and American culture aren't nearly different enough to cause too much of a ruckus.
They are both European based Christian cultures that have very superficial differences.

This isn't an Israeli-Palestinian type situation. This is the good old, several time repeated fear of the newcomers type situation. But like history has shown time and time again, when the newcomers stop being newcomers(as in the next generation), it's all good.

Illegal immigration is one thing, and that needs to be addressed somehow and stopped.
The whole multiculturalism, destruction of America is another thing, and in my opinion garbage.
Oops! As a non-assimilating Hispanic, I mean basura.
It isn't just that it needs addressed and stopped, the bigger picture is that our Society needs to rewrite some rules on how we distribute our own wealth among legal citizens and not leave the door open to the bank vault to non-Americans.
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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"If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.' "

Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

"First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Destroying America
The odds are better than 50/50 that Canada will break up over Quebec IMHO---------unless Quebec is forced to go by the same rules. Read that Quebec which is presently monolingual 'French' is made to be bilingual (English). The rest of Canada is forced to also use French already.

Belgium is another country that may break apart over its language issue (French/Flemish).

And the above nations are First World societies in which the odds of a bloody civil war are slim to none.
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:13 AM
 
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The odds are better than 50/50 that Canada will break up over Quebec IMHO---------unless Quebec is forced to go by the same rules. Read that Quebec which is presently monolingual 'French' is made to be bilingual (English). The rest of Canada is forced to also use French already.

Belgium is another country that may break apart over its language issue (French/Flemish).

And the above nations are First World societies in which the odds of a bloody civil war are slim to none.
From the little that I have read on the subject, (you are far more knowledgeable than I in this regard) I agree with you. I will educate myself on this topic for future discussion as this is of great interest to me, It appears to have many parallels with regards to America's pending state of collapse.

Great post! IOU a rep!
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:32 AM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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India has a language for every state it has, and it's the second fastest growing economy of the world, sure it has her issues, but it might end up surpassing the usa one day
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