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Old 01-09-2009, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Beginning today, the U.S. government will collect DNA samples from immigrants arrested and detained, despite concerns that the move violates their privacy rights.

The new Department of Justice policy also will expand DNA collection to people arrested on suspicion of committing federal crimes. Previously, the government only obtained DNA from people convicted of certain crimes.
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Read and weep: illegal aliens----------the ICE hammer is fixin' to come down a lot harder now.
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Old 01-09-2009, 10:40 AM
 
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Read and weep: illegal aliens----------the ICE hammer is fixin' to come down a lot harder now.
Support with caution... I posted this in another similar thread.

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There was uproar when the US began the finger print program as part of border control in first port of entry (airports). Anyway, the only reason why I would be against this at this time is because we have not proved that DNA matching is 100% reliable. Here in Houston the test labs were mismanaged, samples lost or mixed up and people were convicted for crimes they didn't commit. We proved (especially in Houston) how easy it is to mismanage classification and comparison of ones DNA. If in our city we cannot manage this how do they propose to manage it with highest confidence at a country level? The CDC can't even do proper drug testing and the US public relies on them.
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Old 01-09-2009, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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"We will be looking to see whether mistakes are made," said Barry Steinhardt, director of the ACLU's technology and liberty program.

Steinhardt said he has "grave concerns" about the rapid expansion of the DNA database to include immigrant detainees and people accused of committing crimes.

"People who are merely accused of a crime or a civil violation of law but haven't been convicted of anything are being subjected to the most invasive sort of testing," he said.
Quit your damn whinnin'. If you don't like it.......tough sh*t.
US Citizens are tested all of the time.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:14 AM
 
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Quit your damn whinnin'. If you don't like it.......tough sh*t.
US Citizens are tested all of the time.
Not whining as you assume and are quick to spew out. I actually support but with caution. DNA is the only thing that is identity theft proof. Mismanagement is counterproductive and discredits such programs.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:19 AM
 
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Why do I get a sickening feeling the next hot news story will be: "Identity Theft of DNA BY Illegals". They already stole my identity recently to get cell phones....my cost almost $2,000!
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:44 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Why do I get a sickening feeling the next hot news story will be: "Identity Theft of DNA BY Illegals". They already stole my identity recently to get cell phones....my cost almost $2,000!
U got off easy, my CC got ganked and texted to someone in TJ who went on an immediate spending spree.

I was one of the lucky ones as the loser got caught.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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While there is a risk of mismanagement inherent in any “human” activity; I believe this is necessary. DNA has proved to be invaluable in law enforcement. Mistakes will be made, but the benefits far outweigh the risk of errors.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:55 AM
 
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Personally, I think DNA should be taken of all newborns... commit a heinous crime... we will find you...
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Not whining as you assume and are quick to spew out. I actually support but with caution. DNA is the only thing that is identity theft proof. Mismanagement is counterproductive and discredits such programs.
I was refering to the ACLU
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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While there is a risk of mismanagement inherent in any “human” activity; I believe this is necessary. DNA has proved to be invaluable in law enforcement. Mistakes will be made, but the benefits far outweigh the risk of errors.
And; quite a few falsely accused people have been exonerated by DNA testing as well.
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