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Old 01-14-2009, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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How long must Mexico continue to suck at the teat of the US? When will enough be enough; or are we destined to be responsible for the #2 source of Mexico’s revenue indefinitely?

Apparently it doesn’t matter that the U.S. is experiencing an economic tsunami. Apparently it doesn’t matter that over 2 million U.S. citizens lost jobs in 2008, or that thousands continue to find themselves among the ranks of the jobless on a daily basis.


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Andrés Manuel López Obrador, the 2006 Mexican Democratic Revolution Party (PRD) presidential candidate, who inaugurated himself the legitimate president of Mexico with a following of more than 2 million people, said that on Saturday he wrote a letter to U.S. President-elect Barack Obama to find a solution for the immigration issue.

He explained that in the letter he points out to Obama that the problem with immigration between Mexico and the U.S. will not be resolved by building fences, or by militarizing the border, but that instead there is a need to stimulate the economy and the social growth of Mexico.

If 500 to 600 thousand Mexicans did not leave each year to make their way to the U.S., Mexico would have a social explosion, that is why I wrote to Obama. To tell him that the relationship between a strong country and a weak one must be founded in cooperation, not coercive measures, or walls, not about race, or any authoritarian measures,” he said as he held a couple of sheets of paper.
López Obrador sends letter on immigration to Obama | obrador, andr, sends - News - YumaSun
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:40 AM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Lopez Obrador is a clown, he doesn't represent Mexico, people here hate him, and fear him, he is resented that he didn't win the elections, (thank God!!) and likes to believe that he is the "legitimate president" of Mexico.

He makes people have good laughs from time to time from his remarks though, people here were commenting, hmmm for sure Obama had a good laugh with his letter
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Old 01-14-2009, 01:08 PM
 
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Lopez Obrador is a clown, he doesn't represent Mexico, people here hate him, and fear him, he is resented that he didn't win the elections, (thank God!!) and likes to believe that he is the "legitimate president" of Mexico.

He makes people have good laughs from time to time from his remarks though, people here were commenting, hmmm for sure Obama had a good laugh with his letter
OK, so he is Mexico's version of Lyndon LaRouche.
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Old 01-14-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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OK, so he is Mexico's version of Lyndon LaRouche.
Had to google to find out who he was LOL, but yes the similarities are striking!

For those of you who don't know, Lopez Obrador is a politican that has a record of conducting violent protests, his followers are usually mindless radicals who are against everything that differs from his black and white ideology.

Somehow he became Mexico's city major for 6 years, where he was able to fool a lot of people into voting him in for the presidential elections of 2 years ago, this happened due to President's Fox complete incompetency as a president, and he lost by a tight margin. And since that day he has claimed that the election was stolen from him and kidnapped one of Mexico city's most important avenues for several weeks, affecting a lot of business owners and residents of this city, He was left alone because of the fact that many of his followers are radical and violent, and most of the people that had been fooled into voting him saw his true colors after this action and lost their faith on him.

Since that day he has been around claiming he is the "legitimate president of Mexico" we even made a ceremony where he became president, which was nothing more than a circus act.

He used to have a lot of support that was quickly lost until he became a clown that few people listen, his party already marked his distance off him and this letter to Obama, where he claims to be the president of Mexico and asks Obama not to receive Calderon for being the fake one was the latest of his hilarous ideas.
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Old 01-14-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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Had to google to find out who he was LOL, but yes the similarities are striking!

For those of you who don't know, Lopez Obrador is a politican that has a record of conducting violent protests, his followers are usually mindless radicals who are against everything that differs from his black and white ideology.

Somehow he became Mexico's city major for 6 years, where he was able to fool a lot of people into voting him in for the presidential elections of 2 years ago, this happened due to President's Fox complete incompetency as a president, and he lost by a tight margin. And since that day he has claimed that the election was stolen from him and kidnapped one of Mexico city's most important avenues for several weeks, affecting a lot of business owners and residents of this city, He was left alone because of the fact that many of his followers are radical and violent, and most of the people that had been fooled into voting him saw his true colors after this action and lost their faith on him.

Since that day he has been around claiming he is the "legitimate president of Mexico" we even made a ceremony where he became president, which was nothing more than a circus act.

He used to have a lot of support that was quickly lost until he became a clown that few people listen, his party already marked his distance off him and this letter to Obama, where he claims to be the president of Mexico and asks Obama not to receive Calderon for being the fake one was the latest of his hilarous ideas.
We have some strange people here, too...it just doesn't get QUITE so colorful. For example, one of our resident 'nutcases', Jerry Springer, was once Mayor of Cincinnati (a large city, where I BELIEVE Vincente Fox has some sort of ancestral roots).

But how do you REALLY get mad at a guy with the name "Obrador"? He's GOT to be a 'friend of the working man'? Right?

Hang in there, Traveling Fella.....
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Old 01-14-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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Had to google to find out who he was LOL, but yes the similarities are striking!

For those of you who don't know, Lopez Obrador is a politican that has a record of conducting violent protests, his followers are usually mindless radicals who are against everything that differs from his black and white ideology.

Somehow he became Mexico's city major for 6 years, where he was able to fool a lot of people into voting him in for the presidential elections of 2 years ago, this happened due to President's Fox complete incompetency as a president, and he lost by a tight margin. And since that day he has claimed that the election was stolen from him and kidnapped one of Mexico city's most important avenues for several weeks, affecting a lot of business owners and residents of this city, He was left alone because of the fact that many of his followers are radical and violent, and most of the people that had been fooled into voting him saw his true colors after this action and lost their faith on him.

Since that day he has been around claiming he is the "legitimate president of Mexico" we even made a ceremony where he became president, which was nothing more than a circus act.

He used to have a lot of support that was quickly lost until he became a clown that few people listen, his party already marked his distance off him and this letter to Obama, where he claims to be the president of Mexico and asks Obama not to receive Calderon for being the fake one was the latest of his hilarous ideas.
Hahaha! It sounds like he would be right at home here with the politicians in IL! Thanks for the information, I remember the protests but I was not aware that he still claims he is the President.
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:06 PM
 
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Hahaha! It sounds like he would be right at home here with the politicians in IL! Thanks for the information, I remember the protests but I was not aware that he still claims he is the President.
It USED to be that way here. Way back in "Old" San Francisco (in the 1870's) we had "Emperor Norton". A deranged street person, POSSIBLY a native of England (?), Norton "held office" for a number of years, expounding on his views from a donated podium downtown, and proclaiming himself "Emporer of the United States and Canada, and the Protector of Mexico".

He was well-regarded in San Francisco...someone even printed up "curency" with his visage, redeemable in downtown businesses. He frequently took part in parades, along with his "court"...Finally, in 1880, when the "emporer" passed away, 30,000 San Franciscans showed up for his "State Funeral", which extended down Market Street for blocks.

But of course, that wasn't in a 'rational' place like Mexico, or the USA...that was in San Francisco...
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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It USED to be that way here. Way back in "Old" San Francisco (in the 1870's) we had "Emperor Norton". A deranged street person, POSSIBLY a native of England (?), Norton "held office" for a number of years, expounding on his views from a donated podium downtown, and proclaiming himself "Emporer of the United States and Canada, and the Protector of Mexico".

He was well-regarded in San Francisco...someone even printed up "curency" with his visage, redeemable in downtown businesses. He frequently took part in parades, along with his "court"...Finally, in 1880, when the "emporer" passed away, 30,000 San Franciscans showed up for his "State Funeral", which extended down Market Street for blocks.

But of course, that wasn't in a 'rational' place like Mexico, or the USA...that was in San Francisco...
And look what happened to SF in 1906..........Karma in part, perhaps?
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:21 PM
 
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And look what happened to SF in 1906..........Karma in part, perhaps?
I heard ENDLESS stories of "the big one" as a child. My Grandmother's family lived in a nice 'townhome'....and the next day, they lived in an Army tent....one of thousands...where they spent the next year....along with several tens of thousands of others.

She was 14, and guess it must have been quite an experience for her.
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