Illegal cuban immigration? (born, immigrants, accuse, represent)

[christianpoulin]

Originally Posted by the one

ya they all go to miami

all they gotta do is cross the border. didnt you see the first episode of homeland security. all they nave to do is cross the border and voila.

And how do they cross the border? They show up their cuban passport and voila? Or they get someone from the US to come here with fake papers and pick them up right at the door. And once in the US, they fill their papers with lies about where they entered and sing just above where it says: "I certify, under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America, that this application and the evidence submitted with it is all true and correct."

HMMMM, maybe that's why the American embassy asked me the name and date of birth of my wife. So did the immigration office in Miami.

[Mach50]

Anytime you are in a country that is wealthier than the country your gf/spouse is from, you the run risk of being used unless you really really know them, then even sometimes that doesn't matter.

It just so happens Cuban girls are notorious for this, and much of the time they are amazingly smoking hot so us stupid guys do stupid things to "help" only to find out we were played.

I have seen this numerous times from ladies from all over, but recently I have seen a German girl do this to my buddy who is very successful, I come to find out she doesn't even have her citizenship yet, but she bounces from 1 rich husband to the next in California, never has a job but lives like a queen in Coto de Caza, Newport Coast...etc.

A very close friend of mine who is 37 owns his own business loves to date girls from Brazil. Well he almost married a 24 year old who was just too beautiful for him, it is sort of like we all know it is too good to be true, but he was blind. Until he realized she was pushing way too hard for marriage and he called it off. Later she told him, she was using him to get here...of course duh.

Some women master this as an art, and I would imagine guys do it too.

Who to trust? You never know, but one thing for sure sometimes you just gotta cut your losses and move on.

Get a divorce, let her ruin her life in Miami.

[RMD3819]

In your first example I would assume your friends would be treated as Canadians since that is their citizenship. The rules for Canadians immigrating to the US would apply-not the rules for Cubans.

In the second example I'm sure you have heard of the "wet foot-dry foot" policy. Any Cuban that makes it to US soil can stay. Usually this applies to the rafters but I guess those coming from Canada would be included.

[christianpoulin]

Originally Posted by Mach50

Anytime you are in a country that is wealthier than the country your gf/spouse is from, you the run risk of being used unless you really really know them, then even sometimes that doesn't matter.

Who to trust? You never know, but one thing for sure sometimes you just gotta cut your losses and move on.

Get a divorce, let her ruin her life in Miami.

You are absolutely right, just like in poker. Fold your hand and wait for the next one. But in 1987, I got married with a phillipina in her country. Once here, she stucked with me for 17 years and 2 kids. Maybe I was lucky with her. I have some good cuban friends, women and men, and they don't have a lot of good things to say about their own people, some things I will not even say here. And if this is true, maybe after all, a dictatorship is what can keep some order and stability in their country. Sounds harsh but Havana is probably one of the safest city on this earth.

[RMD3819]

Christian-

You should post in the Canada forum. Maybe someone there can help.

[christianpoulin]

Originally Posted by RMD3819

In your first example I would assume your friends would be treated as Canadians since that is their citizenship. The rules for Canadians immigrating to the US would apply-not the rules for Cubans.

In the second example I'm sure you have heard of the "wet foot-dry foot" policy. Any Cuban that makes it to US soil can stay. Usually this applies to the rafters but I guess those coming from Canada would be included.

In the first example, in order to settle there, they probably claimed they were cubans once in Miami. As a canadian, I can enter the US whenever I please. But I could not work there.

Second example, according to a lawyer specializing in this, that wet foot dry foot was emplimented right after Cuba became communist. That was a botched law because in congress, they just saw waves of cubans arriving on the Florida shores. They did not think one bit. Today, they know too well that this law is abused. First, no one in Cuba leaves because of the regime, they leave because of the economy, just like mexicans do. Second, people like me, not because I am special or canadian, get abused. Third, and this according to cuban friends, most of the cuban young adults will "prostitute" themselves in order, not to get out of Cuba, but go to Miami. They even have a distinct word for that kind of prostitution: jineterism.

Now, this law is not about to change because, first, congress has more important things to take care; maybe the economy and the war in Irak. Second, the cuban minority in Miami will never accept this. And since in a democracy, a politician will sell his mother for a few votes, this is not about to happen. So here we are, a cuban national can do anything he likes to enter the US, he will be paroled the instant he crosses the border.

The irony of all this is that, and not only for this thing, in Canada and the US, victims don't have too many rights if none at all. In Cuba, victims have rights. I got rob once in Cuba, found out who robbed me and where she was (the cute cleaning lady). I went to her house and told her mom she had 12 hours to give me back the money or I'd go to the police (5-10 years in jail). I got my money back. Maybe after all, they do need a policeman on every street corner.

[cubanguy]

Well. I am a cuban man, I currently reside in the U.S, according to the U.S laws, all Cubans who reach U.S territory are elegible for Permanent Residency under the Cuban Adjustment Act, that's why it is very easy for us to obtain haven in the U.S

I am very sorry to hear that your wife did that to you, unfortunately, many cuban girls do that, they get married just to leave the country and just use people.
I do not think there is much you can do about it, you can contact the USCIS and let them know and find out what course of action can be taken, maybe they are unaware of how she reached the U.S

Some cubans cannot really put up with the brutal canadian winter, not even in the north east here in usa....personally i think Canada is a great place to be, I have visited the country, both the land and the people are very nice....

I hope I have helped out somewhat...!
Carlos, Philadelphia PA

[cubanguy]

I am very sorry to hear all that story and of the things that really **** you off.....you know, people like that girl, do not make it in this society, much less in Miami...sooner or later, in one way or another she would pay for all the damaged she caused to you.

I came to the USA helped by some canadiand friends I met back in 1992, I used to be their translator in Cuba, they invited me to live with them in Canada (Vancouver) but i was not given the visa, months later the U.S gov granted me a visa to work and live in USA. My canadians friend helped me with the money to come here, and I will be eternally thankful at them for that, as soon as I became a permanent resident here in USA flew to Calgary to see them and spend some time with them....I hate the fact that others take full advantage of someone else's kindness to do something like this, not taking into consideration your effort and your good intentions and love.

I know that many cubans do this, not most of them as somebody posted before here, but it is sad. I hope you not to portray all cubans the same way, most of us are not like this, my american sponsor and I are really good friends, I lived with him until I became self-sufficient, same thing with my canadians friends....My wife, came with me on my visa, once here, she asked me for a divorce, ina way, I know how it feels to be used, we had been married for many years, lately things were not doing alright but after me getting that visa, we decided to put it all back together and start a new live.....right.....months after landing in Philadelphia she threw the marriage in the toilet.....you know...is whatever...!

God knows of your good intentions and effort, and in the long run will compensate your loss, I do not know if you believe in God or not....but that's gonna happen...
Well, I am Carlos, from Philadelphia.....

If you can call the USCIS and report the case, it might be a bit late. i don't know.....give it a shot if you feel it is worth.

My email: cdiaz316@yahoo.com

[christianpoulin]

Hola Carlos
You are absolutely right. Once they reach the frontier, it's open door. US immigration asked me all the data I could have on her but never responded once I sent it. According to a lawyer, as long as there is no fraud, there is no problem. Well, let me rephrase this. As long as there is no fraud against the US government, there is no problem.

As far as winter is concerned, don't get married to a canadian if you can't tolerate cold. I would never get married to a woman from Irak if I had to go and live in her country. Anyway, she had it all planned even before leaving Cuba.

And don't worry, I think nothing bad about the cuban people because of this. Quite the contrary

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by christianpoulin

Hola Carlos
You are absolutely right. Once they reach the frontier, it's open door. US immigration asked me all the data I could have on her but never responded once I sent it. According to a lawyer, as long as there is no fraud, there is no problem. Well, let me rephrase this. As long as there is no fraud against the US government, there is no problem.

As far as winter is concerned, don't get married to a canadian if you can't tolerate cold. I would never get married to a woman from Irak if I had to go and live in her country. Anyway, she had it all planned even before leaving Cuba.

And don't worry, I think nothing bad about the cuban people because of this. Quite the contrary

Mexico has proven to be a corridor for illegal entry by Cubans into the US as of late too.