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Old 01-28-2009, 05:37 AM
 
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Near my home there is a long commercial street where every day of the year there is nearly 100 likely illegal aliens standing around looking for work. They stand there wearing a spring jacket with no hat in 20 degree cold waiting and waiting for someone to come by and pick them up to do some type of work. I drive down the street all day and see the same ones standing in the same spot all day every day. What a sad situation.

I have to assume that they are being picked up every once in a while or they would not bother to stand there. But I never see any of them hired.

Do you ever see day laborers picked up for work and would you hire one yourself?
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:39 AM
 
Location: NW Montana
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Depot stores usually have lots outside.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:40 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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There are so many now that quite often other Illegal Aliens are hiring each other. This is the so-called underground economy that we've allowed to exist today. Couple that with the fact that much if not most of that money travels out as remittances to other Countries and you can see the net drain on our economy.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:08 AM
 
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Short answer....Yes.

(Legal Disclaimer: Undoubtedly, this thread will soon see a post which challenges its title. Someone will ask "ah-HAH !! How do you KNOW that what you saw involves illegals? How do you KNOW this wasn't a movie company making a FILM about illegals? How do you know the 'day laborers' you saw weren't REALLY American college students conducting an experiment in 'black market economics'. In fact, how do you know that these weren't simply male prostitutes being picked up by wealthy 'cruisers' in pickup trucks ?"

The answer of course, is that NOBODY does know....not for sure.

But nevertheless, I'll stick my neck out and say. "Yes"..I have seen illegals hired for day jobs. In the past, in a far more 'relaxed' era, when illegals were far less controversial, I hired many myself. In those days it was considered a 'victimless crime', a 'win-win' for all parties, and many of these illegals were fine, hard-working people. I still know a number of them...mostly legal by now.

How do I KNOW the guys I hired were illegal? Because, in most cases they TOLD me so...many even asked for advice on this. Of course, they COULD have been lying to me...but I don't think they were.

In the end, though, it's true...you never KNOW who's illegal....can't be TOO sure about ANYTHING these days...it's ALMOST as scary as hiring a lawyer....

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Old 01-28-2009, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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We have such a small population of them here in the Pittsburgh Tri-State we don't even have them at the depot stores.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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Near my home there is a long commercial street where every day of the year there is nearly 100 likely illegal aliens standing around looking for work. They stand there wearing a spring jacket with no hat in 20 degree cold waiting and waiting for someone to come by and pick them up to do some type of work. I drive down the street all day and see the same ones standing in the same spot all day every day. What a sad situation.

I have to assume that they are being picked up every once in a while or they would not bother to stand there. But I never see any of them hired.

Do you ever see day laborers picked up for work and would you hire one yourself?
Yes i have seen day laborers get hired. A major highway (Rt. 236) in Annandale, VA has usually 30 or 40 day laborers looking for work in parking lots of certain stores. It's pretty busy during rush hour so they have good prospects by standing there.

I would NOT hire one. My neighborhood already has enough shady characters in it and is going through a crime spike and with all the horror stories i've heard about day laborers i'll pass. Plus, i live in an condo and have 2 capable property managers.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Maryland, U.S.A.
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Our local governments actually fund day laborer centers that cater largely to illegal immigrants. I know / know of plenty of people who have hired day laborers--homeowners and small business operations. It's very widespread. Some of the illegal day laborers likely get trickle-down government contract money due to sub-contracting obfuscation. (This is especially true of things like groundskeeping, construction, janitorial, and sanitation work, of course.)

Our county's/state's/region's support of illegal day laborers has been a source of great controversy; they used to congregate by Home Depots, 7-11s, etc. much to the dismay of business owners and neighbors. Many of the properties in the poorest cities/suburbs were bought by illiterate/semi-literate illegal immigrants through strawman purchasers and the like. And we have liberal bilingual ACORN activist youths trying to help them keep their houses, when these kids are probably postponing home ownership for themselves by being community activists and not attending grad programs in law or public policy administration. We even have county contract laws to help protect domestic workers (legal and illegal) from exploitation and non-living wages. It's interesting.

I agree that illegal immigrants (or formerly illegal immigrants who got sponsored for naturalization) often hire illegal immigrants. This is very common. Some of them exploit them badly, too.

The social experiment is beginning to strain our communities, though.

There has been a string of violent murders over the last year committed by illegal immigrant day laborers, so even our bleeding heart Democratic stalwart is starting to wonder if it's a good idea to promote "sanctuary" policies.

And I am doing more and more manual/DIY labor myself as my socio-economic status has gone down a few notches. I can handle it. Just because I have a college degree doesn't mean I can't risk a hernia to save some money.

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Old 01-28-2009, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Maryland, U.S.A.
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And another thing--in these enclaves of lawlessness (poor crime-ridden immigrant enclaves with lots of illegal aliens), the most lawless criminal elements are preying on the more honest, non-violent, clean-living illegal immigrants.

This is largely ignored by the media and our society. That's why the most assimilated legal and illegal immigrants are actually very upset about mass illegal immigration and the lawlessness it has engendered.
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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I've watched many get hired (in So Cal) and there's not a snowball's chance in hell I'd hire one myself.
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:42 AM
 
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Near my home there is a long commercial street where every day of the year there is nearly 100 likely illegal aliens standing around looking for work. They stand there wearing a spring jacket with no hat in 20 degree cold waiting and waiting for someone to come by and pick them up to do some type of work. I drive down the street all day and see the same ones standing in the same spot all day every day. What a sad situation.

I have to assume that they are being picked up every once in a while or they would not bother to stand there. But I never see any of them hired.

Do you ever see day laborers picked up for work and would you hire one yourself?
Why should I hire a illegal day laborer when I can hire a able bodied American citizen. People hire illegal day laborers because they are cheap skates pure and simple. They want something for nothing. I believe in paying people a good wage for a honest days work. I have never had a problem finding a American citizen to do any number of odd jobs around my house. I always pay them well.
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