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Old 01-30-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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So they want there to be exceptions....mainly for themselves. Talk about entitlement! My parents are criminals but they deserve citizenship? And they will sue the POTUS to get their way?

If ever there was a reason to stop birth right citizenship when the parents are not citizens (and most especially when they are here illegally) this would be it.

*******s.

i agree 100% any way some people want to slice it, it boils down to there parents came here unlawfully. If they never were able to come here illegally then this wouldnt be happening in the first place. almost like a bank robber who stole 100 million and goes to prison and the goverment takes all the money back and this criminals son sues the goverment saying "it wasnt me who stole the money now give it back" fact is fact you do something illegal you pay the price dont come boohoo'ing later
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Old 01-30-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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Ohhhhhh....something else fit there and I was mistaken
Oh great -- now you have me counting on my fingers all the letters of every cussword and slur that I know.

Seriously hope you didn't think it was the one starting with 'W'....I may not like the idea of illegal immigration, but I do recognize that individually they are people and most likely nice people. It is just the sheer numbers of them that I cannot accept.
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Old 01-30-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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I may not like the idea of illegal immigration, but I do recognize that individually they are people and most likely nice people. It is just the sheer numbers of them that I cannot accept.
Sounds pretty reasonable to me. There are MANY MANY examples of something, or some practice, that was "once OK", but now no longer is.....and also many things, and many practices, that MAY be "OK" in manageble numbers, but can become serious problems when those "numbers" increase fivefold or tenfold.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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Yes, they both broke the law, but our immigration system is horrible. It really should not break up the family unit like this.
Correction, 1guy....our immigration system may not please everybody, but it doesn't "break up family units". Illegal immigrants are OUTSIDE our immigration system...remember?

Just like "our retail system" doesn't penalize shoppers; it penalizes shoplifters. Shoplifters aren't part of the 'retail process'.

Illegal immigrants take their chances when they elect to come here illegally...most get away with it, but when they're 'caught', it's not the 'fault' of the immigration system...it's the fault of the one who broke the law, and put himself AND his family into a 'legal limbo'...
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Oh great -- now you have me counting on my fingers all the letters of every cussword and slur that I know.

Seriously hope you didn't think it was the one starting with 'W'....I may not like the idea of illegal immigration, but I do recognize that individually they are people and most likely nice people. It is just the sheer numbers of them that I cannot accept.
Yeah, I feel you and agree.
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:03 PM
 
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Correction, 1guy....our immigration system may not please everybody, but it doesn't "break up family units". Illegal immigrants are OUTSIDE our immigration system...remember?

Just like "our retail system" doesn't penalize shoppers; it penalizes shoplifters. Shoplifters aren't part of the 'retail process'.

Illegal immigrants take their chances when they elect to come here illegally...most get away with it, but when they're 'caught', it's not the 'fault' of the immigration system...it's the fault of the one who broke the law, and put himself AND his family into a 'legal limbo'...
I totally agree. But of course you do realize that they've been brainwashed to believe that nothing is ever their fault or responsibility. Even when it is . . . . .
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Correction, 1guy....our immigration system may not please everybody, but it doesn't "break up family units". Illegal immigrants are OUTSIDE our immigration system...remember?

Just like "our retail system" doesn't penalize shoppers; it penalizes shoplifters. Shoplifters aren't part of the 'retail process'.

Illegal immigrants take their chances when they elect to come here illegally...most get away with it, but when they're 'caught', it's not the 'fault' of the immigration system...it's the fault of the one who broke the law, and put himself AND his family into a 'legal limbo'...
Well said. To blame our immigration system for breaking up families is like blaming our legal system for breaking up families when we send them convicted to jail.
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Isn't it a little different when a hard working person goes to jail leaving behind his kids rather than a person who stole or murdered a person? Yes, they both broke the law, but our immigration system is horrible. It really should not break up the family unit like this.
It’s interesting you mentioned “stole” in your post. What would you consider one who “steals” an identity; such as a stolen SSN to gain employment in this country? Do you not consider that theft? Or, is that justifiable due to our “horrible” immigration system?
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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It’s interesting you mentioned “stole” in your post. What would you consider one who “steals” an identity; such as a stolen SSN to gain employment in this country? Do you not consider that theft? Or, is that justifiable due to our “horrible” immigration system?
Pro illegal alien apologists' claims are growing more outlandish by the day---------methinks their desperation is starting to really show.
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:52 PM
 
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It’s interesting you mentioned “stole” in your post. What would you consider one who “steals” an identity; such as a stolen SSN to gain employment in this country? Do you not consider that theft? Or, is that justifiable due to our “horrible” immigration system?
Good point...and while occasionally, one person has been known to "murder" another, I can't remember the last time I heard of a person who "stole" someone. I thought Abraham Lincoln put that whole industry out of business in 1865...

Anyone who "stole or murdered a person" SHOULD get the attention of the authorities, I agree.
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