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Old 02-03-2009, 10:17 PM
 
Location: AL
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So California is broke but according to illegal alien lover.." Illegals are a positive to our country"....hmmm something seems some what wrong then.

I mean they dont pay taxes but get Medi-cal...food stamps...and every other free aid..so how in the heck are they helping us? More like ruining us !

They put absolutey nothing back into this country. Take Take Take.

And honestly the jobs they do use to be done by American teenagers when I was a teen....Wash dishes,cook and other 1st time teen jobs.
Seems to me all they are doing is taking jobs American teens would do "if " they could get them...but they cant because the employer will not hire an American for those jobs anymore...why................because then the employer would probably have to pay for health care cost...thats why !

So please people stop the B.S talk about illegals helping this country..they are 1 of the biggest cost that is killing California and many other states...Wake up peopel in California and vote those "jokers " out of office.
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Old 02-03-2009, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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So California is broke but according to illegal alien lover.." Illegals are a positive to our country"....hmmm something seems some what wrong then.

I mean they dont pay taxes but get Medi-cal...food stamps...and every other free aid..so how in the heck are they helping us? More like ruining us !

They put absolutey nothing back into this country. Take Take Take.

And honestly the jobs they do use to be done by American teenagers when I was a teen....Wash dishes,cook and other 1st time teen jobs.
Seems to me all they are doing is taking jobs American teens would do "if " they could get them...but they cant because the employer will not hire an American for those jobs anymore...why................because then the employer would probably have to pay for health care cost...thats why !

So please people stop the B.S talk about illegals helping this country..they are 1 of the biggest cost that is killing California and many other states...Wake up peopel in California and vote those "jokers " out of office.
I still keep sensing that once California turns against the illegals----------it will be sudden and savage.
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:07 AM
 
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I still keep sensing that once California turns against the illegals----------it will be sudden and savage.
Don't hold your breathe, this is California we are talking about here which is one of the most liberal states in the country, this ain't no Alabama. Liberals in California are so tolerant of illegal immigrants that it makes me sick. California is the state where all of the big major cities are sanctuary cities for illegals. California is so far to the left that if Che Guevara were alive today and he step foot in the state than he would feel like he has died and gone to heaven.
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:11 AM
 
Location: southern california
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illegal anything does not help the country. our government looking the other way does not help either.
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:43 AM
 
Location: AL
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I truly find it nuts how no-one in goverment will enfornce the damn boarder laws..
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Old 02-04-2009, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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I truly find it nuts how no-one in goverment will enfornce the damn boarder laws..
I find it interesting that the people who live the farthest from the Mexican border are often the ones who complain the loudest about this issue.
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Old 02-04-2009, 03:58 AM
 
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It's the same reason why those who lived furthest from the 9/11 attacks and probably any realistic terrorist target have been the loudest on that issue.

The liberal versus conservative attitudes on immigration are similarly just rooted in a sometimes irrational psychology.

Liberals tend to be engaged in the global economy (most notably on the east and west coasts) and have embraced a globalizing society in which the arbitrary boundaries between nations are relics of a bygone era. They have moved beyond defining themselves by the political boundaries of any particular nation. Thus, the perceived lack of patriotism and the overall apathy toward immigration. Liberals experience in their work and personal lives the impending openness of a world without borders (much like the United States when it was formed and faded the boundaries between states).

Social conservatives tend to be rooted in stricter political and social boundaries, whether it is only identifying with those of the same religion or the strict boundaries of a nation. Tinged with a fear of the "other", it is a very "us versus them" worldview.

Both sides are important for a young culture such as ours - for it is as legitimate in our current circumstances to demand one invest in a nation before taking resources from it as it is legitimate to see the impending collapse of political boundaries and a society no longer defined by nation-states.
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:11 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I find it interesting that the people who live the farthest from the Mexican border are often the ones who complain the loudest about this issue.

It's 2009 and up to about 15 years ago many people had never even seen an Illegal Alien. Now that we have let in an untold number probably over the 20 million mark everyone is being affected. Many States have been forced to create their own laws which have further concentrated Illegal Aliens into States and Cities that have done nothing.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I find it interesting that the people who live the farthest from the Mexican border are often the ones who complain the loudest about this issue.
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It's the same reason why those who lived furthest from the 9/11 attacks and probably any realistic terrorist target have been the loudest on that issue.

The liberal versus conservative attitudes on immigration are similarly just rooted in a sometimes irrational psychology.

Liberals tend to be engaged in the global economy (most notably on the east and west coasts) and have embraced a globalizing society in which the arbitrary boundaries between nations are relics of a bygone era. They have moved beyond defining themselves by the political boundaries of any particular nation. Thus, the perceived lack of patriotism and the overall apathy toward immigration. Liberals experience in their work and personal lives the impending openness of a world without borders (much like the United States when it was formed and faded the boundaries between states).

Social conservatives tend to be rooted in stricter political and social boundaries, whether it is only identifying with those of the same religion or the strict boundaries of a nation. Tinged with a fear of the "other", it is a very "us versus them" worldview.

Both sides are important for a young culture such as ours - for it is as legitimate in our current circumstances to demand one invest in a nation before taking resources from it as it is legitimate to see the impending collapse of political boundaries and a society no longer defined by nation-states.
I live about 100 miles N of the Mexican border and I want it closed/locked.

For the record: I am quite 'Liberal' in a lot of regards otherwise; at least in the social sense.

And I repeat: legal immigrants are welcome here (including Mexicans)---------illegal aliens are criminals and need to be deported along with having their assets seized.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:43 AM
 
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I find it interesting that the people who live the farthest from the Mexican border are often the ones who complain the loudest about this issue.
I lived on the El Paso border with Mexico for one year. I complain as loud as I can about the illegals after living around them. Complained so much, we moved.
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