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Old 02-05-2009, 03:32 PM
 
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Anti illegal alien poster here and I dang well, mean to do something about it!

PLEASE CIRCULATE:

30 Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd 8

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report:
http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/nation/15795654.htm?source=rss&channel=cctimes_nation

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States".
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html

15. Every day 12 Americans are murdered by an illegal alien. Another 13 Americans are killed by uninsured drunk illegal aliens and Eight American Children are victims of a sex crime committed by an illegal alien each day!
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/ia05_king/col_20060505_bite.html http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/ia05_king/col_20060505_bite.html

16. Today, criminal aliens account for over 29 percent of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities and a higher share of all federal prison inmates. These prisoners represent the fastest growing segment of the federal prison population. Incarceration of criminal aliens cost an estimated $624 million to state prisons (1999) and $891 million to federal prisons (2002), according to the most recent available figure from the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters0b9 c

17. "Illegal Aliens and American Medicine". "Many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American Medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue and Chagas disease." The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons
http://www.jpands.org/jpands1001.htm

18. In 2002, HIV/AIDS was the third leading cause of death among Hispanic men aged 35 to 44 and the fourth leading cause of death among Hispanic women in the same age group. Most Hispanic men were exposed to HIV through sexual contact with other men. Source (CDC):
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/hispanic.htm

19. If enacted the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S. 2611) would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the U.S. over the next 20 years - fully one-third of the current population of the United States.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm

20. In 2007, legal and illegal aliens cost the federal government more than $346 BILLION dollars and the U.S. taxpayers paid more than $ 9,000. for each immigrant in the country!
http://www.esrresearch.com/Rubensteinreport.pdf

21. The number of illegal immigrants in the United States may be as high as 20 million people, more than double the official 9 million people estimated by the Census Bureau. 1/3/05
http://www.bearstearns.com/bscportal/pdfs/underground.pdf

22. Cases of Leprosy on The Rise In The U.S., The New York Times. "While there were some 900 recorded cases in the United States 40 years ago, today more than 7,000 people have leprosy.." Leprosy is an airbourne virus, it can also be spread by touching and coughing.
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/03_Disease/030226.leprosy.in.US.htmlhttp://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2005-03-15/whitford-americanleprosy http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78621

23. Two-thirds of illegal aliens lack a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, nto their legal status or heavy use of most social services.
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf

24. America Welcomes Illegal's Contagious Disease.
http://www.rense.com/general64/ill.htm

25. Mexico is the 4th Richest Oil Nation in the World.
www.latinamericanstudies.org/mexico/lopez-portillo.htm

26. The United Nations list Mexico as the number one center for the supply of young children to international pedophile organizations.
http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/mexico.htm

27. An illegal alien parent receives welfare benefits on behalf of his or her U.S. citizen child. regardless of the parentʼs immigration status may receive welfare and other benefits. When such a child receives assistance, the aid also helps support the childʼs family. Page 1.
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf

28. In fiscal year 1995, about $1.1 billion in AFDC and Food Stamp benefits were provided to household with an illegal alien parent.
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf

29. U.S. households headed by illegal aliens used $26.3 billion in government services during 2002, but paid $16 billion in taxes, an annual cost to taxpayers of $10 billion. It's reasonable to expect those costs to continue to soar if action is not taken to turn the tide.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/dec/06/20041206-102115-6766r/

30. The illegal aliens, costs U.S. taxpayers more than $32,000 in federal, state and local benefits each year. That same family contributes an average of $9,000 a year in taxes, resulting in a net tax burden of $22,449 each year. If the lower figure of 12 million illegal aliens is used for estimation purposes, the total tax burden translates to $2.2 trillion.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55135

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Old 02-05-2009, 03:44 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Alanboy395 View Post
Won't happen, pro-illegals do not have a great track record of practicing what they preach.
I think Americans are waking up to the fact they're paying CHILD SUPPORT for dead beat illegal alien fathers. Every week a certain portion of taxpayers paychecks are being deducted for WELFARE for illegal aliens children!

Me thinks that will go over like a lead balloon!



$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd 8

$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

$90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

An illegal alien parent receives welfare benefits on behalf of his or her U.S. citizen child. regardless of the parentʼs immigration status may receive welfare and other benefits. When such a child receives assistance, the aid also helps support the childʼs family. Page 1.
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf

In fiscal year 1995, about $1.1 billion in AFDC and Food Stamp benefits were provided to household with an illegal alien parent.
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf

U.S. households headed by illegal aliens used $26.3 billion in government services during 2002, but paid $16 billion in taxes, an annual cost to taxpayers of $10 billion. It's reasonable to expect those costs to continue to soar if action is not taken to turn the tide.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/dec/06/20041206-102115-6766r/

The illegal aliens, costs U.S. taxpayers more than $32,000 in federal, state and local benefits each year. That same family contributes an average of $9,000 a year in taxes, resulting in a net tax burden of $22,449 each year. If the lower figure of 12 million illegal aliens is used for estimation purposes, the total tax burden translates to $2.2 trillion.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55135

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Old 02-05-2009, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Polls, shmolls . . . they are ILLEGAL and have no right to be here.
Nice way to avoid producing facts, LOL. I know you weren't the OP, but if they make a claim with specific numbers (80%), they should be able to back it up with stats. FYI, I don't really care about "illegal immigrants" and neither do most of the people I know - so just based on my own observations, it's nowhere near that high of a number. And I'm also not stupid enough to fall for the line "we only hate illegal immigrants," nor do I believe you're all as outraged over non-Hispanic immigrants. Anyway, I know how you'll respond to all of this, but it isn't going to convince me - so whatever.

P.S. I'm not getting a refund this year (I actually owe money ), but if I was it certainly wouldn't go to anti-immigration charities... we have bigger issues to worry about, and I'd rather fund something like a children's educational program or homeless shelter. In fact, I just donated about $1500 worth of coats/jackets to the rescue mission, for which they were VERY grateful!
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Old 02-05-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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Polls, shmolls . . . they are ILLEGAL and have no right to be here.
Why the need to back up what he said with polls then?
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Illegal immigration is a serious problem, especially once our resources are wasted to subsidize it with such minimal returns.

I'm curious why everyone is ignoring outsourcing, though. With all the jobs (and currency) that sends overseas, the economic devastation caused by illegal immigration pales in comparison.

Also, our public education is falling way behind many other nations that became developed decades after us, and we are losing that battle in both depth and practicality. If we had better education, illegal immigrants wouldn't even be able to touch our job market since everyone would have far more qualifications. Also, if our education continues to tolerate mediocrity, then we're in danger of needing to migrate to other countries in the all-too-near future.

I'm glad some are trying to stop the problem with illegal immigrants, but we all need to reunite in the cause to redirect our tax money to a betterment of our citizens. That starts with getting it out of the hands of illegals, yes; but getting rid of illegals would barely be a start in contrast to all the work we need to do to keep the home front economically competitive in the up-coming decades.
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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I think Americans are waking up to the fact they're paying CHILD SUPPORT for dead beat illegal alien fathers. Every week a certain portion of taxpayers paychecks are being deducted for WELFARE for illegal aliens children!

Me thinks that will go over like a lead balloon!
Do you all really believe that illegal immigrants receive welfare? One of the most basic requirements is being a citizen, so I think you're confusing legal (and amnestied) immigrants with illegal... what a shocker, LOL.

Read this link carefully... The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR): Immigration and Welfare
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:05 PM
 
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Do you all really believe that illegal immigrants receive welfare? One of the most basic requirements is being a citizen, so I think you're confusing legal immigrants with illegal... what a shocker, LOL.

Read this link carefully... The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR): Immigration and Welfare
Please Go to the United States Government Accounting Office,

ILLEGAL ALIENS
Extent of Welfare
Benefits Received on
Behalf of U.S. Citizen
Children

Link provided

The act also requires us to report on the extent to which means-tested public benefits are provided to illegal aliens for the use of eligible individuals. This is most likely to occur when an illegal alien parent not eligible for aid receives benefits on behalf of his or her U.S. citizen child. A child born in the United States to an illegal alien obtains U.S. citizenship at birth regardless of the parentís immigration status and, as any other citizen in need, may receive welfare and other benefits. When such a child receives assistance, the aid also helps support the childís family, raising concerns about the use of public assistance by those illegally in the United States. This report responds to the mandate for information on the extent to which this occurs and, as agreed with your offices, discusses to what extent and in what locations selected federal means-tested benefits are being provided to illegal aliens.

In fiscal year 1995, about $1.1 billion in AFDC and Food Stamp benefits were provided to household with an illegal alien parent.
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf

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Old 02-05-2009, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Please Go to the United States Government Accounting Office,

ILLEGAL ALIENS
Extent of Welfare
Benefits Received on
Behalf of U.S. Citizen
Children

Link provided

In fiscal year 1995, about $1.1 billion in AFDC and Food Stamp benefits were provided to household with an illegal alien parent.
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf
Read the words carefully - household with AN illegal alien PARENT - meaning the one who actually receives checks is probably legal. I'm sure there are benefits that end up in illegal immigrant's hands, but it usually isn't by the government's choice.

Edit: Gee, it looks like I'm somewhat correct... "In California, households composed of an illegal alien parent and citizen
children
represented about 10 percent of the state’s AFDC and Food Stamp caseloads in 1995 and accounted for $720 million in AFDC and Food Stamp benefits combined." "About 77 percent of AFDC and 78 percent of Food Stamp households with an illegal alien parent had one or two citizen children; the remaining households had three or more citizen children receiving benefits." And I only literally two pages of the article, so I'm sure it's made even more clear in the rest. Did you read the article yourself?

So, are you fine with denying benefits to children who are citizens of the United States?
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Nice way to avoid producing facts, LOL. I know you weren't the OP, but if they make a claim with specific numbers (80%), they should be able to back it up with stats. FYI, I don't really care about "illegal immigrants" and neither do most of the people I know - so just based on my own observations, it's nowhere near that high of a number. And I'm also not stupid enough to fall for the line "we only hate illegal immigrants," nor do I believe you're all as outraged over non-Hispanic immigrants. Anyway, I know how you'll respond to all of this, but it isn't going to convince me - so whatever.

P.S. I'm not getting a refund this year (I actually owe money ), but if I was it certainly wouldn't go to anti-immigration charities... we have bigger issues to worry about, and I'd rather fund something like a children's educational program or homeless shelter. In fact, I just donated about $1500 worth of coats/jackets to the rescue mission, for which they were VERY grateful!
Since you already know how I will respond, I wonít bother. Let it suffice to say, they are here illegally, irrespective of poll numbers which rarely are representative of the populace. Perhaps the OP will post the poll in question.

You are certainly free to contribute to your charity of choice. I didnít post that either, so I will leave it at that.
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Since you already know how I will respond, I wonít bother. Let it suffice to say, they are here illegally, irrespective of poll numbers which rarely are representative of the populace. Perhaps the OP will post the poll in question.
I hope so, but somehow I doubt we'll ever see that link. As a reference librarian, I can certainly do my own research, and will let you know if I find anything. But aside from the numbers, yes there are many people here illegally, and I don't think anyone is arguing that - I just don't agree that 80% of Americans spend time worrying about it. I live in California, and grew up in a city that was known as "Little Mexico" on one side... so if I don't care even coming from this environment, I doubt the majority of Americans are focused on this. Don't we have bigger problems to worry about right now?!

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You are certainly free to contribute to your charity of choice. I didnít post that either, so I will leave it at that.
Okay, thanks for your permission. My charities of choice are usually related to animals (Humane Society, ASPCA, etc), children's & educational programs, homeless assistance, AIDS & cancer research, gay rights, and Jewish charities. Unfortunately I don't have much to give lately, but if I did, the "illegal immigration groups" would be at the bottom of my list... considering what I know about most of them and their real motives. Plus I try to focus on improving the lives of our people, no matter where they were born or how they got here. I work with many immigrant families, and couldn't possibly look into their child's eyes and say "SORRY! I'm going to let you starve since your mother jumped the border." I'm just a bleeding heart, I guess.
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