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Old 02-07-2009, 07:57 PM
 
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One political activist in Sacramento believes America is ready for a fresh take on immigration. But are Americans ready to send money to create jobs in Mexico to help resolve the illegal immigration problem here in the U.S.?

Arnoldo Torres is trying to get Congress and the Obama administration to look at his point-by-point, 17-page idea for a "permanent mechanism" to solve illegal immigration, according to a published report.

Torres supports legalization for some undocumented workers over a span of six years but the controversial suggestion that the U.S. fund job growth in Mexico is where some Californians stop listening.

New Take on Immigration - NBCSANDIEGO.COM- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29055152/ - broken link)
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:26 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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We already send BILLIONS in remittance every year. That idea is WACKED.

The govt of Mexico needs to step up and take care of it's own citizens.
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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We already send BILLIONS in remittance every year. That idea is WACKED.

The govt of Mexico needs to step up and take care of it's own citizens.
As you stated.

Again: Mexico needs to grow up and take responsibility for all of its citizens----------not just its moneyed 'hacienda' class.

A good place to start would be to pay Gringo wages to its police and judiciary for starters which would eliminate most of el mordita and likely attract a much better class of recruits.
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:41 PM
 
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We already send BILLIONS in remittance every year. That idea is WACKED.

The govt of Mexico needs to step up and take care of it's own citizens.
I am in total agreement with you. They have become so co-dependant on the US that they don't have the will or the ability to do anything without our physical, mental, emotional and financial assistance.

It's long past time to cut the cord, build the wall around entire perimeter, cut off all foreign aid and let them sink or swim on their own. If they survive isolation from the US, then they are worthy of the title of "country" if not, too bad. Personally, I am sick of the US propping up mexico both here and in their own cesspool, as well as the rest of the world with my tax dollars and at the expense of my son's future.

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Old 02-08-2009, 09:49 AM
 
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I believe Mexico should become self-reliant.

They've put themselves in a precarious position with too much dependence on us, and as we collapse, they risk collapsing with us. California is in serious financial problem.
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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I believe Mexico should become self-reliant.

They've put themselves in a precarious position with too much dependence on us, and as we collapse, they risk collapsing with us. California is in serious financial problem.
Add Illinois to the list of sanctuaries in financial ruins. Despite having the highest sales tax in the US and soaring property taxes and foreclosure rates, Illinois is now 9 BILLION in debt and then there is this disaster:

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Latinos accounted for 80 percent of the 200,000-student growth in public schools in the last 20 years, according to the report, which focuses on education issues.

"The composition of our student body has changed significantly in the last 20 years," said Jerry Stermer, pResident of Voices. "We're going to have to address this complex challenge from a variety of fronts all at once."

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Students who have trouble speaking English have only a 57.2 percent graduation rate, according to the annual "Kids Count" report from Voices for Illinois Children. At the same time, Illinois faces a shortage of bilingual teachers.

Report: Ill. student dynamic changing too fast :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Education (http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/1415329,w-illinois-education-student-demographics-020509.article - broken link)
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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We already send BILLIONS in remittance every year. That idea is WACKED.

The govt of Mexico needs to step up and take care of it's own citizens.
Not to mention that the United States could use some propping up too.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:15 AM
 
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Not to mention that the United States could use some propping up too.
Exactly. Our government and the corporate masters are so busy propping up the planet at the expense of American jobs and tax dollars, they have yet to realize or acknowledge that the poorly planned and instituted globalized economic disaster is resulting in the final nail in America's coffin.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:47 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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well i didnt read anything specific about his plan in the article, but im sure it has ties to our existing trade treaties in [north]america.

im not so quick to shun his ideas, especially since we dont know what they really are just yet.

no need to spew some rhetoric about financial disasters and cess pools till i know more about this plan.

and a lot of the other posts...
"gringo wages", "mordita" what the hell is that?

while i agree that the US is over extended in some places, i dont think the best solution would be to severe ties or support for our neighbors to the north or the south.

that wont work. its just reactionary.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: South FL
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We already send BILLIONS in remittance every year. That idea is WACKED.

The govt of Mexico needs to step up and take care of it's own citizens.
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