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Old 02-14-2009, 04:44 PM
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer View Post
The BP and HD attempted this and guess who wailed? You get it, the pro-illegal groups. It was quite successful documenting Illegal Aliens so their attempt to cross again made it a felony.
The Border Patrol(is that even their job?) and HD(homeland security?) were inspecting vehicles leaving the country? At what point has that ever happened?
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Old 02-14-2009, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by macmeal View Post
I'm afraid the problem here is in your choice of wording. To the "idealists", the term you use..."survive", is, in itself, rather vague. Of COURSE we'd survive, even if our population was TRIPLED by refugees. We'd still be here; the Rocky Mountains and the Mississippi River would remain. We'd "survive", only at a different level...but "survive" we would...as a third-world country. Is that OK? Apparently, to many people, it is. We've been a 'mean' country, making our fortune and our prosperity on the 'backs' of other people...and as a result, we don't "deserve" what we have. We've decimated the Indians, enslaved blacks, marginalized minorities, held back women and the poor, invaded the Middle East, and even caused Muslims to fight among themselves...we have ALL of this on our national "conscience", and there's only ONE WAY we can ever 'atone' for our sins. We can't ever un-do the damage we've done to our 'victims' in the PAST, but we CAN make it up, by bringing in NEW 'downtrodden' people, ideally non-whites..and going out of our way to be ESPECIALLY accomodating and understanding of them...listen to their problems, ignore their shortcomings, deny ANY negative results of illegal imigration, and rationalize the reasons behind it...etc...sort of "do whatever it takes" to make up for the wrongs we've done in the past. And if that means that we'll end up as a broken, dysfunctional, third-world nation, then so be it..that's the price we pay, for what we've done. It's the LEAST we can do. Do I agree with this? Not at all...but many on this forum do, whether they realize it or not. That's essentially what they're saying. And we're already on the way to this as we speak. Hospitals are closing, schools are deteriorating, wages are falling, and our largest state is in virtual bankruptcy. In the face of ALL THIS, many of us see no POSSIBLE remedy except to bring in millions of MORE uneducated, unskilled, desperate people..why? Because we "can"...because we "need them"...because it's "the right thing to do", and because "we've always done it that way". So don't talk about our nation being destroyed..it will continue to survive. It may be a balkanized, hateful, third-world hell hole, and we may bitterly regret our policies some day, and we may not have a hospital to go to when we're sick...but we'll survive. Just like most of the REST of the world survives...under a brutal system of ethnic divisions and class hatreds and authoritarian laws. Welcome to the real world..it's how the "real people" live. What made us think we were "special"?
Well said . This country will be ruined if we do not stop illegal immigration and reduce legal immigration back to a more manageable level where immigrants are more easily assimilated in American society so they shed their negative customs or habits from their ancestral country.
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