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Old 02-14-2009, 06:00 PM
 
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Just wanted to get people's opinions here on the possibility of Americans ever emigrating to other countries more than foreigners immigrate to the U.S. This is not as absurd as it may seem ; other countries have gone from countries that are immigrant destinations to countries whose people immigrate elsewhere (generally this has occurred in South American countries, but also more recently in Israel). Could it happen in America if the economy continues to get worse, and perhaps if there is some sort of disaster? IMO if Sarah Palin ever becomes president there will be a flood of Americans aiming to leave and Canada would be as up in arms about Ameican illegals as the US is about Mexican illegals right now. But that's just my opinion.

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Old 02-14-2009, 06:41 PM
 
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Just wanted to get people's opinions here on the possibility of Americans ever emigrating to other countries more than foreigners immigrate to the U.S. This is not as absurd as it may seem ; other countries have gone from countries that are immigrant destinations to countries whose people immigrate elsewhere (generally this has occurred in South American countries, but also more recently in Israel). Could it happen in America if the economy continues to get worse, and perhaps if there is some sort of disaster? IMO if Sarah Palin ever becomes president there will be a flood of Americans aiming to leave and Canada would be as up in arms about Ameican illegals as the US is about Mexican illegals right now. But that's just my opinion.

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I doubt it.

The last time that immigration was a 'hot button' issue was prior to ca. 1920 hence the restrictive laws put in place shortly thereafter. Said laws were loosened around 1953 to eliminate flagrant racial discrimination AKA truly leveling the playing field.

The above stated: it is high time restore the pre 1965 immigration quota system and eliminate chain migration (or at least restrict said family migration from English speaking nations only irrespective of the applicant's actual race/ethnicity).
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Old 02-14-2009, 06:42 PM
 
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Just wanted to get people's opinions here on the possibility of Americans ever emigrating to other countries more than foreigners immigrate to the U.S. This is not as absurd as it may seem ; other countries have gone from countries that are immigrant destinations to countries whose people immigrate elsewhere (generally this has occurred in South American countries, but also more recently in Israel). Could it happen in America if the economy continues to get worse, and perhaps if there is some sort of disaster? IMO if Sarah Palin ever becomes president there will be a flood of Americans aiming to leave and Canada would be as up in arms about Ameican illegals as the US is about Mexican illegals right now. But that's just my opinion.

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Yes. that could happen in my lifetime. If the jobs disappear, it could be likely that americans will flood countries with a lower cost of living to survive, espec in their retirement years. i'd like to see mexico get a taste of its own medicine.
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Old 02-14-2009, 07:02 PM
 
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I doubt it.
There have been two decades in US history in which more people left the US than moved to the US - the 1860s and the 1930s. In the 1930s this was due to immigrants returning to their home countries, preferring to be poor there than in the US. In the 1860s this was due not only to the Civil War scaring away immigrants but also Confederates emigrating after the end of the Civil War, largely to Brazil.

The US was very crisis ridden in both of those decades. If things continue to get worse than the US could become a country that sends its people to the rest of the world rather than one which recieves people from the rest of the world. Offhand I can only think of three countries which went from destinations for immigrants to sending out immigrants: Brazil, Argentina, and most recently Israel.
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Old 02-14-2009, 07:12 PM
 
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Sometimes I consider moving to Northern Italy, where they actually defend themselves against invasion. I love reading about the Northern League and how Lombards are making it increasingly difficult to exist in Italy as a non-European. Good for them -- bring back the Blackshirts.
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Old 02-14-2009, 07:31 PM
 
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There have been two decades in US history in which more people left the US than moved to the US - the 1860s and the 1930s. In the 1930s this was due to immigrants returning to their home countries, preferring to be poor there than in the US. In the 1860s this was due not only to the Civil War scaring away immigrants but also Confederates emigrating after the end of the Civil War, largely to Brazil.

The US was very crisis ridden in both of those decades. If things continue to get worse than the US could become a country that sends its people to the rest of the world rather than one which recieves people from the rest of the world. Offhand I can only think of three countries which went from destinations for immigrants to sending out immigrants: Brazil, Argentina, and most recently Israel.
Mexico comes to mind as well for obvious reasons---------unless the growing deportations from the USA have reversed Mx's emigration/immigration ratio factoring in US born Anchor Babies.
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Old 02-14-2009, 07:50 PM
 
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Mexico comes to mind as well for obvious reasons---------unless the growing deportations from the USA have reversed Mx's emigration/immigration ratio factoring in US born Anchor Babies.
In the case of Mexico you're talking about Mexican immigrants returning home.

Mexico did at one time have more lenient immigration policies and did attract immigrants from Europe fleeing dictatorships and world wars but I don't know if the number of foreigners moving to Mexico was greater than the number of Mexicans going to the USA at that time.
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Old 02-14-2009, 08:17 PM
 
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Where would Americans go? Everybody hates us.
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Old 02-14-2009, 08:22 PM
 
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Where would Americans go? Everybody hates us.
If we were backed into a corner: whomever has the biggest guns/greatest desire to fight will likely win.

Suffice to say: I hope we (the USA) is never placed in that position.
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Old 02-14-2009, 10:08 PM
 
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By "sending out immigrants" I didn't mean kicking immigrants out of said countries. I meant the nationals of the countries in question emigrating in larger numbers
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