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Old 12-15-2009, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I agree that they should let ilegal immigrants into the military but mostly those who came here with visa that way they can be more encouraged to come here llegaly and not sneak in trough U.S borders. Also, many immigrants have been living here for almost their whole entire life ( same as me 10 years living) maybe they should get a chance to also fight since arn't they part of the U.S culture as much now as before? I doubt if they go back to there country they can live normal lives since the way of life is comepletly different.

One more thing; it's true what huckleberry3911948 says, a lot of americans ( not saying anything bad at all) have become lazy and not fighting or doing much for there country just as some military personal say.
Where did they mention illegal aliens?
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:41 AM
 
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As for those who are illegal immigrants and want to use the military as a path to legality: How can you do a background check on people that give you fake names and you don't have any information about them from their home country? And one thing that I don't like is how you can join the military and be on the path to citizenship. It's obvious that a lot of people will just join for that very benefit, are these real US soldiers? No, the military should be a way of showing your support for your country, not just a way of finally becoming legal. I wouldn't want to serve side-by-side with someone that could care less about the country and is only here to work and get the goods.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:31 AM
 
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As for those who are illegal immigrants and want to use the military as a path to legality: How can you do a background check on people that give you fake names and you don't have any information about them from their home country? And one thing that I don't like is how you can join the military and be on the path to citizenship. It's obvious that a lot of people will just join for that very benefit, are these real US soldiers? No, the military should be a way of showing your support for your country, not just a way of finally becoming legal. I wouldn't want to serve side-by-side with someone that could care less about the country and is only here to work and get the goods.
I think we discussed this before in here. Illegals cannot join the military legally. Rumor has it that some recruiters are pulling strings or fake documents are presented but on face value they cannot join the military. Like you said joining the military strictly for monetary gain or to gain citizenship rather than patriotism for our country is not honorable and could be dangerous to their fellow soldiers in certain situations. To be honest however, some of our own Americans join for personal gain also rather than patriotism.
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Old 12-17-2009, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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In one word: hell no!
Um, that's two words.....
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:31 AM
 
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This is a security nightmare. What is wrong with sending recruiters to Nepal to recruit a bunch of Gurkhas, if we need recruits this badly? We'd immediately peel of the cream of the Gurkha contingent, given that we pay better than the Brits, and way better than the Indians. Heck - there are plenty of European soldiers raring for a chance to join the US military. What is wrong with setting up a Foreign Legion type outfit that recruits these men? Call it the NATO Legion...
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:34 AM
 
Location: southern california
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more and more we are acting like the romans, when they allowed the goths to take over police force and military that was the end. when rome fell 1 in 3 was a slave. in our case, economic slave.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:30 PM
 
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more and more we are acting like the romans, when they allowed the goths to take over police force and military that was the end. when rome fell 1 in 3 was a slave. in our case, economic slave.
Roman troops were the police. The problem wasn't the recruitment of barbarians, most of whom served with distinction and assimilated completely into the Roman empire. It was that the Romans were always outnumbered, and initially defeated their opponents via a combination of superior training and combined arms tactics. After a while, Rome's adversaries figured out the advantages and disadvantages of Roman tactics and instituted training regimens that made them the equals of the Roman formations. That, in combination with superior numbers of adversaries pressing in on all sides, led to the fall of the Western Roman Empire.

Other things that hurt Rome - (1) the spread of Christianity led to pacifism among the previously notoriously bloodthirsty Roman populace, and (2) Roman succession was a chaotic and violent affair - every change of emperor involved a civil war - Rome bled itself white with these pointless and bloody struggles for power that wasted both resources and manpower, even as the adversaries on its borders gathered strength.
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