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Old 02-16-2009, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Why would the American Engineering Association and The Programmer's Guild support this? We keep hearing that engineers and IT professionals aren't being impacted by H-1B Visa workers. Hmmm…….


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2.5 million Americans lost jobs last year and we'll lose more in 2009. Everybody is affected. The government's plan to create jobs could take years. But there are things we can do to put Americans back to work now.

Ask why we keep bringing in 1.5 million foreign workers a year to take American jobs.

More than 11 million Americans are looking for work. Yet our government allows more than 1.5 million foreign workers a year to legally enter the U.S. for jobs. That doesn't include millions of illegal foreign workers.

Ask why congressman Luis Gutierrez wants to stop worksite enforcement against employers hiring illegal workers.

Worksite enforcement of companies hiring illegal workers is opening up jobs for Americans. But Congressman Luis Gutierrez is pressuring President Obama to stop worksite enforcement. Why would he do that to his fellow Americans in an economy like this?

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Call President Obama at 202-456-1111 and ask him to tell Congressman Gutierrez NO on stopping worksite enforcement.

Call your Members of Congress at 202-224-3121 and ask them why it makes sense to bring in another 1.5 million new foreign workers this year.

Tell your friends about this website and ask them to join the fight to save American jobs.

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:18 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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That is such bunk. Many businesses hire foreigners for the theme of diversity. We even have to attend diversity classes where we are encouraged to think that way. It has the same smell of quotas or affirmative action. An American of a certain sex or color should'nt be looked over just because the current staff already has a certain number of them.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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That is such bunk. Many businesses hire foreigners for the theme of diversity. We even have to attend diversity classes where we are encouraged to think that way. It has the same smell of quotas or affirmative action. An American of a certain sex or color should'nt be looked over just because the current staff already has a certain number of them.
Considering that a man of color won the Presidency fair and square---------I see no need for Affirmative Action for anybody based in race/ethnicity.

The above stated: I can see helping out folks from lower socio-economic classes----------if it can be proven that the individuals in question can 'earn their stripes'.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:01 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Considering that a man of color won the Presidency fair and square---------I see no need for Affirmative Action for anybody based in race/ethnicity.

The above stated: I can see helping out folks from lower socio-economic classes----------if it can be proven that the individuals in question can 'earn their stripes'.
Money has nothing to do with it, we've hired Visa holders from Europe and S America strictly because it makes the Company more diverse.
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:16 AM
 
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Why do Americans think we can have it both ways? We want to have the right for our corporations to compete fairly and actively in foreign markets against native competition, but don't like when foreign workers can compete with us, here in our country.

Free trade is a two-way street, my friends. This is one of the drawbacks.
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:08 AM
 
Location: US
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This has to be a joke. Is it that you really don't know, don't understand or can't figure out the difference?

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Why do Americans think we can have it both ways? We want to have the right for our corporations to compete fairly and actively in foreign markets against native competition, but don't like when foreign workers can compete with us, here in our country.

Free trade is a two-way street, my friends. This is one of the drawbacks.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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Lets not forget offshoring, which is very simply a way a company can get high tech workers on the cheap. My dhs company had what they termed 'off shore resources' and it was a disaster. I'm sure those Indian IT guys where competent, but attempting to contact one another when a problem arose was a nightmare. Plus, culture has to be taken into consideration. In the US initiative is prized while in India they refused to make a move without a superiors OK. Different ways of looking at things, but a nightmare if you were their manager.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Why do Americans think we can have it both ways? We want to have the right for our corporations to compete fairly and actively in foreign markets against native competition, but don't like when foreign workers can compete with us, here in our country.

Free trade is a two-way street, my friends. This is one of the drawbacks.
Factor in protectionism in many nations that effectively ban US goods and services.

Remember that free trade is indeed a two way street.

As for say, an American applying for a job in most nations, he/she needs to jump through many hoops--------yet, those same rules are not applied to E Indians, Mexicans, etc.
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:14 PM
 
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Money has nothing to do with it, we've hired Visa holders from Europe and S America strictly because it makes the Company more diverse.
Your company is feeding you a bunch of malarkey. Diversity if by hiring legal workers already living in the country is one thing. Sponsoring visas as a means to increase diversity is completely BS. These types of visas are supposed to be requested when those being sponsored have such specialized skills that cannot be found locally. I don't know the exact details but this is how it is supposed to be used.
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Old 02-22-2009, 04:18 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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Great ad; yes it IS time to protect the American worker.
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