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Old 02-21-2009, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Illegals should be deported because they don't belong here. It is illegal for them to be here. That has nothing to do with tires. The tire squealing just got them noticed.
exactly
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:56 PM
 
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True. IA parents certainly canít instill honesty and integrity in their children when their own lives are replete with lying, cheating, and stealing. If I smoked a joint in front of my son, how on earth could I possibly punish him if I found a bong in his room?
Exactly. Even if they tried to instill any of the above characteristics, because they obviously don't possess them, the do as I say, not as I do rule is not valid. There is nothing worse than a criminal hypocrit.
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Old 02-22-2009, 12:15 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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Priceless: serves that group of losers right
Exactly!
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Old 02-22-2009, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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We should adopt Mexico's laws to deal with illegals. They are much more cruel and nasty.
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Old 02-22-2009, 03:01 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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We should adopt Mexico's laws to deal with illegals. They are much more cruel and nasty.
And hear the public outcry! But you're right. We should.
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Old 02-22-2009, 04:01 PM
 
Location: USA
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We should just enforce our laws already on the books. If we did we wouldn't have an illegal alien problem. Many American lives would be saved because of it.
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Old 02-22-2009, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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We should just enforce our laws already on the books. If we did we wouldn't have an illegal alien problem. Many American lives would be saved because of it.
Such common sense begs the question - WHY?
Why won't the elected officials, appointed officers, and government employees do their job?
What is the REAL reason?

I suspect that (a) if American businesses didn't have this way to side step socialist overhead, they'd be ruined that much faster, (b) thus exposing the vulnerable situation that America has not only lost high paying jobs and valuable industries, but has destroyed its capacity to survive.

In other words, without "cheap" (no overhead) labor, American made goods and services would shoot up in price - or - not be available. And that feeds into the marketplace, hurting consumers.

The last thing that government (*And those behind the curtain) wants us to learn, is that SOCIALISM has been imposed on us, since 1935. And despite the mass media disinformation campaign, America has been on a path to destruction for over 3 generations.

What's Wrong With Socialism?
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:29 PM
 
Location: USA
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Such common sense begs the question - WHY?
Why won't the elected officials, appointed officers, and government employees do their job?
What is the REAL reason?

I suspect that (a) if American businesses didn't have this way to side step socialist overhead, they'd be ruined that much faster, (b) thus exposing the vulnerable situation that America has not only lost high paying jobs and valuable industries, but has destroyed its capacity to survive.

In other words, without "cheap" (no overhead) labor, American made goods and services would shoot up in price - or - not be available. And that feeds into the marketplace, hurting consumers.

The last thing that government (*And those behind the curtain) wants us to learn, is that SOCIALISM has been imposed on us, since 1935. And despite the mass media disinformation campaign, America has been on a path to destruction for over 3 generations.

What's Wrong With Socialism?
I read your piece, Thank You for sharing. The government owns 51% of the state of Oregon and 80% of the state of Nevada. The government squeezed the life out of Oregon and starved the people out so, all they had to do is go in and pick up the pieces. I do believe the governments plan is a combination between socialist and communist rule.

The thing most people don't understand is that the problems in America are self inflicted by their own government. For instance, Out Sourcing Jobs and then trying to fix the unemployment problem by creating more debt, instead of keeping the jobs in the country.

The government has to bring the people to their knees, before they can offer socialism and have it look good to the American people. The last thing the government wants right now, is an uprising from the American people. The government is delicately tapdancing and sidesteping and dangling carrots to pull the wool over the American peoples eyes. America needs to wake up and vote out all current politicians that hold office and start with a fresh plate. We need to unify and stop quarreling with each other. Career Politician = Career Criminal
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The government squeezed the life out of Oregon and [1] starved the people out so, all they had to do is go in and pick up the pieces. I do believe the governments plan is a combination between [2] socialist and communist rule.
... The government has to bring the people to their knees, before they can offer socialism and have it look good to the American people. The last thing the government wants right now, is an [3]uprising from the American people. The government is delicately tapdancing and sidesteping and dangling carrots to pull the wool over the American peoples eyes. America needs to wake up and [4] vote out all current politicians that hold office and start with a fresh plate. We need to unify and stop quarreling with each other. Career Politician = Career Criminal
[1] Can you elaborate? I was not aware of the situation.
[2] Right now, it's a socialist / usurer alliance running the world - except in Islamic nations (because they categorically forbid usury).
[3] I think they would like an uprising to occur, so that draconian martial law would be acceptable to the frightened masses. Remember, "false flag" attacks are their specialty.
[4] Believe it or not, it is far better to cease participating in their 'democratic form' and return to the 'republican form of government' promised to us, in Art. 4, Sec 4, USCON. Though Americans have been indoctrinated to be ignorant of law and history, you can go to any county courthouse law library and verify it for yourself.
A brief introduction:
Sovereignty of American people (non-citizen)

In short, sovereign people and subject citizens are mutually exclusive. It is a fact that the government is not sovereign, but servant to the sovereign people. But citizens are subjects of the government, and are obligated to perform.
There can be no constitutional law that imposes U.S. citizenship upon any American born within the boundaries of the United States of America. Since citizenship comes with civic duties (ex: militia duty, jury duty, tax duty), it would be involuntary servitude if imposed. What really happens is that we're tricked into volunteering to be U.S. citizens and residents (an inferior status at law).
I won't elaborate further, because until you read it yourself, in the public record, you wouldn't believe it was possible to fool 300 million people.

The birthright of sovereignty, freedom and independence is available to every American national, free inhabitant, domiciled upon private property, within the boundaries of the United States of America. And that IS the law of the land.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:12 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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In my opinion, Jaime Cisneros, a 16-year-old illegal, is DEPORTED along with his illegal passengers, for allegedly squealing his tires and going 22 mph over the speed limit. The parents were too afraid to pick them up for fear they would deported too. The officer read the minors their rights and they signed a voluntary order to be deported. Jaime Cisneros the driver, is safe with his family in Nogales, Mexico, his mother is pitching a fit.

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http://www.azcentral.com/w2/news/articles.php?articleid=258908

16-yr-old who was deported after a traffic stop in Gilbert, Az. for allegedly driving 22 mph over the speed limit and squealing his tires. The officer asked Cisneros if he didn't have a license because he was in the U.S. illegally, Jaime responded, "Yes." The minors were "served with a notice of rights, the minors signed a voluntary order to return to Mexico.
Ignorance of the law is NO excuse. This is exactly the way that it SHOULD be. Local and State authorities should also have the power to enforce immigration laws just like the Feds do. The stupid kid should have known better than to speed like that. He just drew attention to himself and pissed off the wrong cop.
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