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Old 02-27-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: West Creek
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I'm assuming you mean Chiapas? Do you know how FAR Chiapas State is from our border?
he probably meant chihuagua
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:37 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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he probably meant chihuagua
No, in the mid 1990s there was yet another peasant revolt in the state of Chiapas (in southern Mexico) this time inspired by Marxism complete with a Che Guevara wannabe named "Commandate" Marcos.

By the late 1990s the Mexican military (the best trained and equipped in the region - so you can imagine how bad the Guatemalan, Salvadoran and Nicaraguan forces are) had them surrounded in jungle hideouts and it became a stalemate.
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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That is very true, legalize the illegals/reduce border security/immigration enforcement and they will be forever loyal that president's party hence the reason both the Dems and the Reps pander to the Hispanic community.

It's actually sickening that citizens of foreign nations have better representation on Capitol Hill and in the White House then we do! If they don't cut out the crap this whole issue will lead to a second civil war ... and all because of some greedy politicians who wanted more votes and some big business executives who wanted cheaper labor.
That is sad ,but, true. The last President that had the guts to deal with illegals was Dwight D Eisenhower, back in 1952. It worked then, should work now. Obama hasn't got it in him. Makes you want to puke.
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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PRO-DRUG CARTEL Mexicans were blocking the entrance to the United States, yesterday and today, banging cars, shouting and holding signs. 10 people were killed Wed. and 12 more yesterday at the border (5 of which were children!!!)

Texas National Guard on High Alert | Infopirate.org (http://infopirate.org/bm_texas-national-guard-high-alert - broken link)
Since I live pretty close to El Paso and Juarez, I thought I'd check this out.
The TX governor, who would have given the order (not the senator quoted in the OP), says that it is not true:


statesman.com | Guard not on high alert | Postcards
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:09 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Things are rapidly falling apart on the border. Unfortunatly the current administration does not have the stones to deal with it properly. If troops are sent down there they no doubt will be sent into thei AO's with empty weapons for fear they may actually shoot back.. Like Beirut in the 80's. There is only one viable solution to the problems presented by the cartels. Peace through superior firepower. We should use our military against them. At this point I would say that anyone coming across the border could be construed as hostile. That would be a prudent assumption anyway. These creeps are armed to the teeth and are enforcing their power by force of arms. On BOTH sides of the border. This cannot be tolerated. If they want to play, well, lets play! 10,000 Marines with air and armor support should get their attention. The folks who live down there should be organizing and shooting back as well. This is the function of the "militia' as defined by our Constitution. Push them back to their own side of the border and keep them there. This situation is dead serious and it's time it was treated as such. The Federal Government won't do a bloody thing about it for fear of what "world opinion" will be. The devil with what the UN thinks! This is not their border or their people in danger. It's high time we showed these "cartels" what American anger looks like. And not Washington DC's brand of anger either. The real honest to God "you've P*S*** us off and your gonna know it" brand of anger. Thats the stuff that money CAN"T buy. It's time these creeps knew it.. This is not an immigration issue at this point. This is a national security issue. The cartels are challenging the soveriegnty of our country and spitting in our face. I do not understand why it is not being taken seriously. Rather it is being brushed aside and poo pooed as insignificant. Why is this , I wonder?
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Old 02-28-2009, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Earth
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No, in the mid 1990s there was yet another peasant revolt in the state of Chiapas (in southern Mexico) this time inspired by Marxism complete with a Che Guevara wannabe named "Commandate" Marcos.

By the late 1990s the Mexican military (the best trained and equipped in the region - so you can imagine how bad the Guatemalan, Salvadoran and Nicaraguan forces are) had them surrounded in jungle hideouts and it became a stalemate.
The Zapatistas were actually anarchists, not Marxist-Leninists, and the actual fighting only lasted one month in 1994.
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