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Old 03-05-2009, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Recent news reports that fewer Hispanics may be migrating to the United States and some are even returning to their home countries, because of the U.S. economic crisis, are drawing attention in Little Rock, where signs of these trends can be seen.
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And the band plays on..............
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Reno, NV
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And everyone else has less money to live on here at home. Cry me a rio for the hispanics.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Crisis usually come when corrections are necesary, it's a natural way of regulating the excesses and abuses that lead to it.

It's good and healthy to see the good things of this crisis instead of focusing on the negative aspects of it.
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Old 03-05-2009, 03:17 PM
 
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Why would US Hispanics need to send money "home"?....I thought US Hispanics WERE home, when they were in the US. If this isn't so, where is "home" for a US Hispanic?...
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Old 03-05-2009, 10:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Interesting play of words eh macmeal? Reminds me of roaming gypsies.
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Old 03-05-2009, 10:57 PM
 
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Crisis usually come when corrections are necesary, it's a natural way of regulating the excesses and abuses that lead to it.

It's good and healthy to see the good things of this crisis instead of focusing on the negative aspects of it.
Yes. The past couple decades were about excesses and abuses. It's been about cheap labor, exploitation. Irresponsibility of all kinds.

Now we're going to realize that much of the "wealth" was just an illusion. It wasn't based on anything solid. It's going "poof" because far too much was based on credit and debt. Remittances didn't for the most part build up infrastructure or create jobs, much of that money was just about spending, buying luxuries.

Reality will hit the fan and we will have to get back to basics. Food is the biggest thing I think. I think all countries -- including Mexico and the USA should push agriculture and food independence.

People can actually take a lot. They can see their savings and investments dwindle. They can lose an expensive house and go back to renting. They can drive a car for a few more years, even avoid buying the latest iPhone or iPod. Panic will be when they can't feed their children.

I think people may start getting away from globalism and internationalism. All that has created so much inter-dependence that we all collapse together. With separate countries, at least some succeed, some fail.
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:36 PM
 
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Why would US Hispanics need to send money "home"?....I thought US Hispanics WERE home, when they were in the US. If this isn't so, where is "home" for a US Hispanic?...
I send money to my family in Ivory Coast. My neighbors send money to both Germany and Mexico to family. A person can have multiple homes.
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:55 PM
 
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I send money to my family in Ivory Coast. My neighbors send money to both Germany and Mexico to family. A person can have multiple homes.
But the USA "home" is just to get that money. It means nothing more than that.

Too many "immigrants" today have their hearts in their homelands but their bellies in the USA. It's all only about the money. Now what happens when our economy collapses for that? We cannot go on being the only economy for the entire world, with millions coming here only to raid us.
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Old 03-06-2009, 12:30 AM
 
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But the USA "home" is just to get that money. It means nothing more than that.

Too many "immigrants" today have their hearts in their homelands but their bellies in the USA. It's all only about the money. Now what happens when our economy collapses for that? We cannot go on being the only economy for the entire world, with millions coming here only to raid us.
It's a global economy...Americans do the same thing abroad. Go to the Middle East. When we lived in Saudi Arabia, roughly 100k were American citizens (now rougly 30k...). To us Riyadh was home, but so was the US and Ivory Coast.

People that have never experienced it don't understand this concept. To them, they think of home in singular terms, not understanding the complexities of multinationalism. I guess to be fair, it usually is a unique situation, esp. here in the states. Europeans understand the concept more. You can have multiple homes.

My mom's best friend back in Riyadh has lived there for 30 years. Canada and Madagascar are her homes as well as Saudi Arabia. You can have multiple homes.

Technology and spreading of cultures create communities of trans-nationals. It really is not a new concept, but it is one that few Americans have dealt with.
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Old 03-06-2009, 03:30 AM
 
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But the USA "home" is just to get that money. It means nothing more than that.

Too many "immigrants" today have their hearts in their homelands but their bellies in the USA. It's all only about the money. Now what happens when our economy collapses for that? We cannot go on being the only economy for the entire world, with millions coming here only to raid us.


Which is exactly why we need to build a wall around the entire perimeter of the southern border and post armed forces. stop the abuse of the 14th, cut off the freebies, empty our jails of them and deport or force out every illegal caught here. It is way past time to go back to the need based only tradition for LEGAL immigration.

For more than a decade we have imported massive numbers of poverty, ignorance and illiteracy from all over the world. They in turn have brought or reproduced their 3rd world dysfunctional behavior, crime waves and massive birth rates. None of which is beneficial to this country nor needed. We have enough problems of our own.

It's way past time to get back to basics and only allow those who are educated and skilled to immigrate legally to the US. Everybody else needs to either be sent home or stay home.

Very profound and to the point.

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