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Old 03-10-2009, 04:02 AM
 
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is for a reason a lot of americans argue that...you were paid in a daily basis...now pay go home...ok sounds intelligable...even "**** humane right" tickets to go back cost around 250 say a ticket...family of four...1,000 dollars...ok sounds good so far..how about if they earn or put money in a house...and bought two cars."**** it...you know you were illegal...should not have bought.." sound reasonable...good so far...

the usa is like switzerland...capitalist put money in americans treasury to provide the most safest interest rate return in the world...IT WASNT YOUR MONEY...THEY WERE FOREIGN INVESTORS.....FINANCING ILLEGALS ...but **** it...you dont want there slave wages you dont want nothing to do with them...sounds reasonable....

then I hope your wishes come true....as a neighbor youre always going to have mexico by your side...now the trick is what kind of neighbor..do you want you.say **** got paid now go away...sounds good...
even if youre republican or democrat stop with your sillyness just look at the uptodate news...rush limbaugh talks a lot about not taxing the rich...
and let capitalism as its trues form...obama...spending money THAT is money AMERICANS YOU DONT HAVE....

illegals supposly compromising
In down times, Hispanic market is booming - We the People- msnbc.com
12 to 20 million people have to go with around 12 million
12 million suddenly became the scapegoats of a nation of 306 million well educated canabalistic capitalism high school, college degree population getting fool...by poor 7 to 10 dollar wage third world unedacated labor....

you know percentages? thats around 5% percent of the american population in todays economy 2 to 3 percent mean a lot...job growth..gdp growth, comsumption growth...

NationMaster - Exports (most recent) by country
NationMaster - Foreign investment (most recent) by country
investment

and again hopefully by you getting rid of these illegal immigration problem...would cease tentions with mexico as your
"**** you got paid get out policy.."
https://www.uktradeinvest.gov.uk/ukt...ionPageId=/usa

as a neighbors we buy 4 times more than ENGLAND....and proplably more then all europe combine...while there fighting the usa around the world...about using the euro instead of the dollar as a reserve currency

MEXICO HAS all there money
List of countries by foreign exchange reserves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
in dollars as our reserves...not euros...we have more real money...than the usa....REAL MONEY...and

List of countries by public debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
while the usa has 60.80% and mexico 22.80 debt percentage as of gdp but yet were the fail state..and youre going to tell me 5% percent of your population (illegals is causing all the problems?

THE REASON i AM THROWING ALL THESE FACT AT YOU...is that if you sent and dont reform...which ever way you want it...is that Mexico and the usa are going to live along side each other forever....
and IF YOU CANT REFORM YOURSELF..when youre culturely superior...vast superior in technology....

militarised the border....KILL THE REAL TERRORIST OF MEXICO AND THE USA...THE DRUG CONSUMERS THAT GIVE MONEY TO THE CARTELS TO CORRUPT OUR POLICE AND ARMY INSTITUTIONS...BUT STOP EM.....

once you sent me the 11 million to mexico and make a mexico a country of 120 million inhabitants...did you know tha mexicos is the 4 largest receipient in fdi "foreign direct ivestment" if we were the size of china "china is 10 times bigger " we would not be receiving 24 billion but 240 billion....vastly more superior than china but everybody brags about them...

againg once you sent those 11 million dont be crying when south korea, chinese...europeans...steal your high price possesions "high sensitive technology.." and your rich would just follow mexico to invest in cheap labor...

again **** it sent them home..got paid on a daily basis...
well dont come to us...when 20 years from now...the baby boomers
have left the labor force...and china is the sole superpower..and your middle class is destroy by CAPITALISM..."IF YOURE A TRUE BELIEVER then you dont oppose in foreign countries getting superior per capita"

againg dont come to us with your 230 million inhabitants.."taking out mexicans ..latin americans...and all sources of illegall immigration"
crying

wa...wa...
europe is not trading accordingly....
china is threating me.....
brazil..is growing...and shodowing me....
iran...is getting its nuclear bomb and threating the stability in the middle east....

what youre going to NUKE EVERYBODY...LOL PLEASE BE REASONABLE...

WERE YOUR NEIGHBORS..AND LEARN TO SHARE THE EFFECTS OF EUROPEANS COMING TO AMERICA...BECAUSE THATS THE EFFECT OF LIVING UNDEARNEATH 600 MILLION LATIN AMERICANS...WILLING TO WORK.....FOR LESS...AND IF YOU PROTECT AGAINST IT...THEN CAPITAL...
THE GOD YOU SO MUCH PRAISE WITH YOUR GREED ITS GOING TO FOLLOW THE CHEAPEST SOURCE....TO PROFIT...

want a reform mexico....
stop consuming drugs...
stop traffiking weapons...
and just like you help israel...and taiwan, turkey, south korea, AND europe against THE russianS .

I BET YOU WE BOTH WILL COME BENEFICIAL FROM THIS REFORM...BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE DIE FROM...
DRUGS....IN THIS COUNTRY AND MORE LIVE ARE DESTROY BY DRUGS...
THEN ALL THOSE COUNTRIES
*THEN ALL the arab-israely wars....
*hungary cze revolts under ussr
*north korea vs south korea in the fifties

SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE..UNTIL YOUR HABITS DO.....

THANKS...
AND STILL LOVE YOU MY BROTHERS....BECAUSE...YOURE ALWAYS GOING TO BE MY NEIGHBORS...

 
Old 03-10-2009, 04:22 AM
 
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http://www.treasury.gov.au/documents/817/images/05_article_4-18.gif (broken link)

japans gdp growth...



just look at japan the most perfect example of an isolated country free from immigration of any type...
1963-2001 it was fuel by its young growing population but once that stagnated...GUESS WHAT...THERE banks started
buying assets...
in china, usa, mexico, brazil...building plants left and right...and they LEFT THERE INHABITANTS THAT SO help them with welfaring and subsidizing supporting and babying there powerful industries there are today...so they could just walk out and leave em..when there old and weak...

you might say we welcome legal immigration...ok...the legal immigration you have accepted are the ones that are stealing your top secrets...are attending your best schools and preparing them to go back to their
mother country and supplying them with all that new information is that the what you want?
europeans are growing at 0.16% rate what you want their highly skilled
population coming to america..when there importing
algerians, turks, south americans?

trust me at least we used the roman alphabet and we fear the same god you do...

dont wish for something you might regret...
support the hispanisation of the usa...
lol..just kidding
 
Old 03-10-2009, 04:52 AM
 
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Default read this...

washingtonpost.com

Why does all this matter? Because just as the United States has relied on foreigners to underwrite its deficit, it has also depended on smart immigrants to staff its laboratories, engineering design studios and tech firms. An analysis of the 2000 Census showed that although immigrants accounted for only 12 percent of the U.S. workforce, they made up 47 percent of all scientists and engineers with doctorates. What's more, 67 percent of all those who entered the fields of science and engineering between 1995 and 2006 were immigrants. What will happen to America's competitive edge when these people go home?

you might say what does that have to do with mexico...again where not buddhist...were not muslims or hindus etc...and we do are alphabet just like yours....do you want more legal labor from asia...
to be your headaches of tomorrow?

america doesnt seem to be scared of cheap or expensive labor....
the only one that is afraid is the locals who are so lazy to take BY WORK
WHATS RIGHTFULLY THEIRS...

YOU migh say bull.....then why are all your scientis and engineers...half of them..are foreigners? and 70 percent entering those same...categories are foreigners...from 96 to 2006

you mighy say but we pay there taxes....yeah right 5 percent of your populations does that...and those are the ones that brought all the mess upon you...

illegals...and foreigners...bring COMPETITION...YOUR STANDARD FOR PROGRESS
IF YOU DONT LIKE MAYBE YOUR NOT AS AMERICAN AS YOU THOUGHT...
 
Old 03-10-2009, 05:30 AM
 
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Default and just so you know....

how hard is fighting corrupted officials and how much is REALLY AMERICANS FAULT....

Afghanistan opium poppy cultivation 1994-2007b.PNG


Opium production has fallen greatly since 1906, when 41,000 tons were produced, but because 39,000 tons of that year's opium were consumed in China, overall usage in the rest of the world was much lower.[70] In 1980, 2,000 tons of opium supplied all legal and illegal uses.[13] Recently, opium production has increased considerably, surpassing 5,000 tons in 2002. In 2002, the price for one kilogram of opium was $300 for the farmer, $800 for purchasers in Afghanistan, and $16,000 on the streets of Europe before conversion into heroin.[71]
Following documented trends of increasing availability mirroring increased American military and geo-political regional involvement, Afghanistan is currently the primary producer of the drug. After regularly producing 70% of the world's opium, Afghanistan decreased production to 74 tons per year under a ban by the Taliban in 2000, a move which cut production by 94 per cent. A year later, after American and British troops invaded Afghanistan, removed the Taliban and installed the interim government, the land under cultivation leapt back to 285 square miles, with Afghanistan supplanting Burma to become the world's largest opium producer once more. Opium production in that country has increased rapidly since, reaching an all-time high in 2006. According to DEA statistics, Afghanistan's production of oven-dried opium increased to 1,278 tons in 2002, more than doubled by 2003, and nearly doubled again during 2004. In late 2004, the U.S. government estimated that 206,000 hectares were under poppy cultivation, 4.5% of the country's total cropland, and produced 4,200 metric tons of opium, 76% of the world's supply, yielding 60% of Afghanistan's gross domestic product.[72] In 2006, the UN Office on Drugs and Crime estimated production to have risen 59% to 407,000 acres (1,650 km2) in cultivation, yielding 6,100 tons of opium, 82% of the world's supply.[73] The value of the resulting heroin was estimated at $3.5 billion, of which Afghan farmers were estimated to have received $700 million in revenue (of which the Taliban have been estimated to have collected anywhere from tens of millions to $140 million in taxes).[74] For farmers, the crop can be up to ten times more profitable than wheat



Taliban regime which had provided support and safe harbor to al-Qaeda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_...2%80%93present)

there are over 55 thousanth troops in afghanistan ...and 23,000 are americans...and tell

IF THE TALIBAN FINANCE THEIR CAMPAIGNS WITH OPIUM MONEY...WHY NOT ATTACK YOUR SOURCE....OPIUM HAS GROWN...SINCE AMERICANS ARRIVE INSTEAD OF DECLINE...

if the only superpower left cannot put control in a 20 billion gdp economy with ...with 32 million inhabitants...

when mexicos economy is 60 times bigger and has 4 times its population...
see...you cannot defeat it...and you expect our national forces to do it...
and yet you call us corrupted and inefficient...

you can add more...OUR NEIGHBOR...DOES NOT SET THE EXAMPLE...
BUT YET EXPECTS US TO FOLLOW...
 
Old 03-10-2009, 07:32 AM
 
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First of all --- how dare you assume that to be illegal is to be Mexican? You must be racist, indeed to even link the two together. I mean, that is what I read on these very forums from illegal apologists every day. So, it must be true.....
Secondly, if Mexico is such a wonderful country that is has so much wealth -- take care of your own people! Stop exporting your poor and uneducated to the US. The truth is, and you can candy coat it all you want, Mexico is not doing the US any favors by unloading their poor. We (the US) have become Mexicos safety valve. If you had to retain all of the poor and uneducated that has immigrated illegally to the US for the last twenty or so years your economy wouldn't look so hot and you would most likely have seen some kind of revolution. So please spare me the crap that Mexico is doing the US a favor by unloading their undesirables across the border. Truely, Mexico should be paying the US 'babysitting' fees.
But whatever...
As to the drug war you do have a point with supply and demand. There is a demand in the US for drugs. But that Mexicans have made drug dealing a widely held profession and have taken bloodthirsty violence to a whole new level does not reflect on American potheads. What it does reflect on is the essential Mexican culture of 'keeping peons in their place'. Maybe if said peons had access to education and the ability to go on to college just maybe the drug trade wouldn't be so virulent in Mexico.

Look to your own damn self. The US has its own problems, we didn't create Mexicos problems and we sure as hell aren't responsible for fixing them.
 
Old 03-10-2009, 10:12 AM
 
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:22 AM
 
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[SIZE=2]An American cartoon of 1921[/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE]
Yes, that would be legal immigration -- something the bulk of Mexican nationals just can't seem to get and by your admission at that.
 
Old 03-10-2009, 10:35 AM
 
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I am a mexican american and love both countries thats why I have this perspective and lol..I am not racist...so those facts are false...
Secondly, if Mexico is such a wonderful country that is has so much wealth -- take care of your own people!and what lol...and let history takes it course...THERES NO SUCH THING AS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION...THERE HAS NEVER BEEN....if you were and irish...in the 1870s you were not welcome the natives not native americans...americans...did not like the competion they never did..when irish came..they hated them..when russians came they hated them...when italians came they hated them... Stop exporting your poor and uneducated to the US. and what forget the teachings you over history prove so well to do? lol...a local...that his grandpa is been here for 120 years...The truth is, and you can candy coat it all you want, Mexico is not doing the US any favors by unloading their poor.neither did you do a favor for europe but guess what YOU WERE THERE SAFTY VALVE We (the US) have become Mexicos safety valve.LOL... If you had to retain all of the poor and uneducated that has immigrated illegally to the US for the last twenty or so years your economy wouldn't look so hot and you would most likely have seen some kind of revolution.AGAIN LOL..WHAT KIND I SAY.... So please spare me the crap that Mexico is doing the US a favor by unloading their undesirables across the border. Truely, Mexico should be paying the US 'babysitting' fees.REALLY...LOOK DONT WHANT TO INSULT YOU BUT AMERICA IS ASKING TO BE NURTURE...AND THE NEWCOMERS WILL LOVE TO LOVE THIS LAND AS MUCH AS YOUR ANCESTORS DID..LOL ITS THE ONLY PLACE ON EARTH WHERE THE LAND IS SO RICH IN NATURAL RESOURCES THAT ITS 26 INHABITANTS PER SQ MILE IS ASKING TO COME...DISORGANIZE BROWN MEXICO DOESNT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS EUROPEANS DID...WHEN THEY DID NOT HAVE A SAFTY VALVE?
But whatever...
As to the drug war you do have a point with supply and demand. There is a demand in the US for drugs. But that Mexicans have made drug dealing a widely held profession and have taken bloodthirsty violence to a whole new level does not reflect on American potheads.LOL..WHAT DID YOU EXPECT IS CALLED EVOLUTION LOL...READ THE BIBLE IT ALL STARTED BY BITYNG THE APPLE...AND THEN WHAT? EVEN TO GOD SEEM PUNISHABLE ENOUGH What it does reflect on is the essential Mexican culture of 'keeping peons in their place'. LOL...AGAING ITS THAT WHY THINK WELL STAY INGONORANT Maybe if said peons had access to education and the ability to go on to college just maybe the drug trade wouldn't be so virulent in Mexico. NO IF YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE A DIFFRENCE..DONT COMSUME DRUGS...AND THATS ALLL.....

Look to your own damn self. The US has its own problems, we didn't create Mexicos problems and we sure as hell aren't responsible for fixing them. LOL...WHAT KIND i SAID....ALL THE ANCESTORS...
THA HAVE COME EVEN FROM THE BERING SEA....
AMERICA IN HAVING 300 MILLION INHABITANTS...AND
LOOKING BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AT EUROPEAN PROBLEMS....
THATS THE PROBLEM BECAUSE AS A CITIZEN YOU DONT GIVE A FLYING FLIP ON WHAT HAPPENS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD...
AMERICA GIVES 2 BILLION TO FIGHT NARCOTRAFFICNQ IN COLOMBIA...
ASSIST MEXICO WITH THE SAME AMOUNT AND YET YOU PROTECT A
12 TRILLION EUROPEAN ECONOMY FROM THE RUSSIANS..LOL....
MAYBE THE EUROPEANS ARE THE PROBLEM
STARVING AMERICA FROM ITS RESOURCES TU SUBSIDY EUROPEANS PROTECTION...
AND AS A BROWN CITIZEN i DONT GIVE A FLYING FLIP THA THAS TO DO WITH EUROPENA INTEREST ABROAD...
 
Old 03-10-2009, 10:44 AM
 
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LEGAL OR NO LEGAL...

the government permitted it to happen without the consent of the american public...

do mexico a favor...and mean it...

dont...protect europe let europe protect itself..let those dollars become dollar votes..and some way or another it would end in mexico either by commerce or investment...

second dont consume drugs....and it will kill a lot of the corruption in mexico....
 
Old 03-10-2009, 10:47 AM
 
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. The Natives are led by William "Bill the Butcher" Cutting (Daniel Day-Lewis), a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant with an open hatred of recent immigrants.
from the movie...gangs of new yourk...

youre bill the butcher...always hating the newcomers....
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