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Old 03-12-2009, 07:55 PM
 
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Soon we may be accused of discrimination for even entertaining the thought that these ‘good’ men may have ill intentions. It could even become a hate crime to deny them the ‘right’ to seek work, by any means necessary. As crazy as this country is becoming, nothing is too ridiculous to imagine.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news...but this is happening now. Several home-improvement centers in OUR area have been 'pushed', bullied, or otherwise 'convinced' to provide a 'staging area for day laborers'. In one case, this was made a condition of the store's getting a permit to open a new branch. SOME of this appears to be a voluntary business decision...some not so much. ONE of these places a few months back was the scene of an ugly "Minutemen vs illegals" dust-up that made it BRIEFLY into the local news.

Several cities, too, have provided these places at taxpayer's expense. And while they SWEAR on their (collective) MOTHERS" GRAVE(S) that each and every job seeker is LEGALLY in the US, enforcement and oversight are sporadic at best, or absent.

And yes, just as you suggested, ANY attempt to 'cut back' on these operations is INSTANTLY met with charges of 'hate', racism, or WORSE.

Sorry to have to bring this to your attention...
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Old 03-12-2009, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news...but this is happening now. Several home-improvement centers in OUR area have been 'pushed', bullied, or otherwise 'convinced' to provide a 'staging area for day laborers'. In one case, this was made a condition of the store's getting a permit to open a new branch. SOME of this appears to be a voluntary business decision...some not so much. ONE of these places a few months back was the scene of an ugly "Minutemen vs illegals" dust-up that made it BRIEFLY into the local news.

Several cities, too, have provided these places at taxpayer's expense. And while they SWEAR on their (collective) MOTHERS" GRAVE(S) that each and every job seeker is LEGALLY in the US, enforcement and oversight are sporadic at best, or absent.

And yes, just as you suggested, ANY attempt to 'cut back' on these operations is INSTANTLY met with charges of 'hate', racism, or WORSE.

Sorry to have to bring this to your attention...
Incredible!
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Old 03-12-2009, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Back on topic. I doubt seriously if Home Depot would permit U.S. citizens to hang trash bags on the perimeter trees. There’s a Home Depot near a friends’ house that is neighborhood blight. There must be at least 50 loitering on a regular basis. Obviously, they aren’t getting work as easily as before, and have converted a section of the parking lot into a hang out. It’s awful. Who would want to shop there?

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Old 03-12-2009, 09:32 PM
 
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You’re crazy!

Back on topic. I doubt seriously if Home Depot would permit U.S. citizens to hang trash bags on the perimeter trees. There’s a Home Depot near a friends’ house that is neighborhood blight. There must be at least 50 loitering on a regular basis. Obviously, they aren’t getting work as easily as before, and have converted a section of the parking lot into a hang out. It’s awful. Who would want to shop there?
Not familiar with the 'hanging trash bags' thing..(perhaps it's the language barrier?.....something about the English slang term "hanging out" that was lost in translation?).

My LOCAL Home Depot has NO 'day workers'. (Others, near by, DO). In my particular area, there's a whole BLOCK leading up to a smaller lumberyard that serves as a 'pickup area'. LOTS of hopefuls, DOZENS in the morning, tapering off after noon to a few. I get a lot of 'waves', and I just wave back. My wife won't go down that street....but then again, the street doesn't go far..and she doesn't go to lumberyards, anyway. And I get along with these guys, and occasionally talk to them...but you're absolutely right, it WOULD be a little 'overwhelming' for a lady...we're talking possibly 100 or 150 people standing around in the space of one block.

About a year ago, there was a 'crackdown' and the police sat there for a day or so.....but a week later, the street was 'back to normal'.

Pretty much just a part of life here, I guess...
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Old 03-12-2009, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Not familiar with the 'hanging trash bags' thing..(perhaps it's the language barrier?.....something about the English slang term "hanging out" that was lost in translation?).

My LOCAL Home Depot has NO 'day workers'. (Others, near by, DO). In my particular area, there's a whole BLOCK leading up to a smaller lumberyard that serves as a 'pickup area'. LOTS of hopefuls, DOZENS in the morning, tapering off after noon to a few. I get a lot of 'waves', and I just wave back. My wife won't go down that street....but then again, the street doesn't go far..and she doesn't go to lumberyards, anyway. And I get along with these guys, and occasionally talk to them...but you're absolutely right, it WOULD be a little 'overwhelming' for a lady...we're talking possibly 100 or 150 people standing around in the space of one block.

About a year ago, there was a 'crackdown' and the police sat there for a day or so.....but a week later, the street was 'back to normal'.

Pretty much just a part of life here, I guess...
Imagine a Home Depot with trees lining the area near the sidewalk adjacent to the store. Now, imagine huge black trash bags tied to random trees. It’s not a pretty picture.
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Old 03-12-2009, 09:53 PM
 
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Imagine a Home Depot with trees lining the area near the sidewalk adjacent to the store. Now, imagine huge black trash bags tied to random trees. It’s not a pretty picture.
I'd rather not. I believe you...(not a pretty picture, indeed. I once had the daily duty of checking up on an outlying wastewater pump station, the shrub-lined access road of which served as the informal 'latrine' for the local hangout......in a word, "yuck" !!

I often scolded the 'users' and ran them off..but finally just gave up. Since my daily 'check' lasted less than 15 minutes, I figured 'why bother?')
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:09 PM
 
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Before I fled California, I lived about 3 miles from a Home Depot in San Diego. On the few occasions that I needed to shop at a Home Depot, I drove 45 miles to one of the few Home Depot locations that did not have several dozen "day laborers" harassing customers. They were agressive and desperate and frightened some of the customers (especially women shopping on their own....I think they thought they'd have better luck with the women because they probably thought women were more likely to need their help).

I don't live near a Home Depot now, but I do live close to a Lowe's. And we don't have illegals in this city, so it's so refreshing to be able to go buy a new faucet or lawn mower, and not be completely acosted.
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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This has not been a problem in our area, and it better not start. How to stop it is be sure the companies which do work for you do not hire them. It takes longer when lining up contractors-but it can be done. I have hired tree cutting crews who all speak perfect English, and found a masonry crew the same way. Don't hire outfits who hire them, the sad truth is, that if we had political leaders who had guts, this would stop-but Bush didn't do anything about it, Obama certainly won't. The two jerk wad governors of Maryland and Virginia are such candy-asses they wouldn't dream of pushing legislation to halt this stuff if it did get like this here with illegals getting pushy. In DC, you might see it start with the dipstick white folks, but I can tell you this, the black folks would kick their illegal butts out of the shopping center if they started pulling that stuff.
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:18 PM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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To Former Cal Girl; Home Depot on Palm Ave in Chula Vista now has the "Illegals"? workers on the curb and sidewalk next to the drive entrance away from the parking lot. Things are a lot better now. No more hassles in the pkg lot like before. Steve
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Miller Place NY
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For some reason, Home Depot's and Lowe's are "magnets" for the low lifes of the community.

ANYONE have ANY insight into this ?
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