U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-13-2009, 04:18 PM
 
96 posts, read 91,369 times
Reputation: 34

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by blacknight04 View Post
Since when did this thread become about illegal immigrants.


Yeah, I know who you are. The KC forum.

Who do you think it is that Arpaio is being accused of violating their civil rights?

Read the rest of the links on this thread, and it won't take as little intellect as yours to see that it's about illegals, and particularly those from Latin America. You see, the problem is that Arapio is actually enforcing the laws regarding people illegally entering the country. Arapio is enforcing the law....and that upsets those who favor illegal immigrants sneaking into this country, taking jobs from citizens; lowering the standard of living of American citizens; lowering the wage levels, and using the taxes paid by American citizens to get free services and health care.

Please tell me you haven't gotten so brainwashed over the past few years since we first clashed that you don't understand that?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-13-2009, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
3,496 posts, read 8,344,345 times
Reputation: 1832
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunklhammer View Post
**1. Joe is the king of launching investigations into anyone who speaks out against him.**

Evidence, please.

Arrest of Phoenix New Times executives

In October 2007, Arpaio's deputies arrested Village Voice Media executives and Phoenix New Times editors Michael Lacey and Jim Larkin on charges of revealing grand jury secrets. In July 2004, the New Times had published Arpaio's home address in the context of a story about his real estate dealings, which the county attorney's office is investigating as a possible crime under Arizona state law. A special prosecutor served Village Voice Media with a subpoena ordering it to produce "all documents" related to the original real estate article, as well as "all Internet web site traffic information" to a number of articles that mentioned Arpaio. The prosecutor further ordered Village Voice Media to produce the IP addresses of all visitors to the Phoenix New Times website since January 1, 2004, as well as what websites those readers had been to prior to visiting. As an act of "civil disobedience,"[67] Lacey and Larkin published the contents of the subpoena on or around October 18, which resulted in their arrests the same day.[68] On the following day, the county attorney dropped the case after declining to pursue charges against the two.[69] The Attorney General's office has since been ordered to appear before Judge Ana Baca due to missing documentation - including the original grand jury subpoenas - in the case file for the investigation of the New Times publication.[70]

On November 28, 2007, Judge Baca ruled that the subpoenas in this case were not validly issued. The special prosecutor filed the grand jury subpoenas without the consent of the grand jury. Baca's justification was a statute that had been clarified by case law and by subsequent legislation to bar such subpoena authority, unless certain reporting requirements are met. The prosecutor had not met those reporting requirements.[71] In April, 2008, the New Times editors filed suit against Arpaio, County Attorney Andrew Thomas and Special Prosecutor Dennis Wilenchik, alleging negligence, conspiracy and racketeering, and State and U.S. constitutional violations of free speech rights, false imprisonment, retaliation by law enforcement and abuse of process.[72]

[edit] Alleged harassment of New Times reporter

On June 11, 2008, Ray Stern, a reporter for the Phoenix New Times, was surrounded and intimidated by several deputies while trying to examine public records at the City of Phoenix public records counter.[73] Stern called City Attorney Gary Verburg, who came down and instructed the deputies that Stern had the right to view the records. The deputies then threatened to simply arrest Stern on the spot. Later, a city "conflict resolution manager" walked up and laid down an Arizona law book. She pointed to the section of public records law that essentially says anyone can look at any public record during business hours. City Attorney Verburg told the deputies again that Stern had the right to look at any public record. Upon hearing that, the deputies warned Stern again that if he tried to look at the documents he would be arrested.[74]

The events reported by the New Times are substantively verified in a memo drafted by Maricopa County Sheriff's Office Commander James Miller. In this memo, Miller states that the deputies did threaten to arrest Stern if he touched any of the records, and that he (Miller) held one of the records out in front of Stern, saying "take it", to create a pretense to arrest Stern. Miller also reported that the situation escalated into a standoff with the Phoenix Police, when they warned him not to attempt to arrest Stern.[75]

[edit] FOIA requests to mayor and other officials

In situations where government officials have been at odds with Arpaio, his office has used the Freedom of Information Act to make broad requests for records of their email and correspondence. The requests have been targeted against Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard, Maricopa County Court Administrator Marcus Reinkensmeyer, and most recently, Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon.

Starting in March, 2008, Gordon spoke out, in a number of high-profile speeches, against racial profiling by Arpaio. On April 24, Arpaio's deputies issued a public-records request seeking the mayor's e-mails, cell phone records, and meeting calendar, as well as e-mail correspondence for Phoenix Police Chief Jack Harris, City Manager Frank Fairbanks, and all of Gordon's administrative staff. The request covered every e-mail written by more than a dozen Phoenix staffers, from November to the date of the sheriff's demand.[76]

Left off is his ongoing war with Dan Saban...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-13-2009, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
25,107 posts, read 34,371,245 times
Reputation: 4893
There is no "war" with Saban - Saban lost - not only the election but his lawsuit -
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2009, 02:19 PM
 
96 posts, read 91,369 times
Reputation: 34
Default barrioi

Hmmmm. Seems that your "evidence" was exposed for the BS it is.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2009, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
3,496 posts, read 8,344,345 times
Reputation: 1832
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunklhammer View Post
Hmmmm. Seems that your "evidence" was exposed for the BS it is.
really? please show me...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2009, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
25,107 posts, read 34,371,245 times
Reputation: 4893
ibarrios "evidence" has been debunked many times.

He/she/it is nothing more than an apologist for illegals

He/she/it condones illegality
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2009, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
3,496 posts, read 8,344,345 times
Reputation: 1832
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatday View Post
ibarrios "evidence" has been debunked many times.

He/she/it is nothing more than an apologist for illegals

He/she/it condones illegality
debunk it then.

The News Times, and all the other inquires..Debunk them please...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2009, 03:02 PM
 
1,304 posts, read 2,921,982 times
Reputation: 393
Sheriff Joe should get a medal..
We should have a Sheriff like him in every
county thru-out America!
The only ones who want to get rid of him are those
who want cheap labor and those who want the rest
of thier relatives to be able to sneak over freely without
any disregard to the costs of Americans.. in sooo many ways!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2009, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
25,107 posts, read 34,371,245 times
Reputation: 4893
The sure sign Sheriff Arpaio is doing his job - a good job - is the number of apologists who are yelling, screaming and complaining.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2009, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
21,148 posts, read 36,628,664 times
Reputation: 3785
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatday View Post
The sure sign Sheriff Arpaio is doing his job - a good job - is the number of apologists who are yelling, screaming and complaining.
You notice that as well I see.............
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top