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Old 03-13-2009, 09:53 PM
 
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-Minnesota: State Providing Sharia Mortgages for Muslims? | ANSWERS For The Faith

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Old 03-13-2009, 09:55 PM
 
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Appeasements don't work on any level. There is always a dark side.

Everyone should be entitled to the same level of treatment based on what they can do, not on what they are.
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:32 PM
 
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I know but tell this to the politicians
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:53 PM
 
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How does this affect you? Honestly, if there were a Christian policy I wouldn't care. I'm jealous, but my life goes on.
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Old 03-14-2009, 09:41 AM
 
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How does this affect you? Honestly, if there were a Christian policy I wouldn't care. I'm jealous, but my life goes on.
Good for you. Unfortunately, anything remotely connected with a "Christian policy", which put Christianity in any type of 'special category', would never get past the voting stage, would NEVER be allowed to be adopted....and thus, the fact that YOU wouldn't care, becomes a moot point.

I'll take you at your word that you 'wouldn't care'.....but the fact is, plenty of people, including those in high office, WOULD care....and so, as I said, your point becomes moot. It will never be 'tested', because it will never be allowed to happen.
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Old 03-14-2009, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Good for you. Unfortunately, anything remotely connected with a "Christian policy", which put Christianity in any type of 'special category', would never get past the voting stage, would NEVER be allowed to be adopted....and thus, the fact that YOU wouldn't care, becomes a moot point.

I'll take you at your word that you 'wouldn't care'.....but the fact is, plenty of people, including those in high office, WOULD care....and so, as I said, your point becomes moot. It will never be 'tested', because it will never be allowed to happen.
You’ve got that right! The ACLU would be on it like flies on ____.
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Old 03-14-2009, 11:32 AM
 
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See, what pretty much happens though is that it's not in the realm of mortgages that Christain policies extend to. It's in abortion, international relations, education, and well in the public sphere. These things are where I care. If my girlfriend wants to get an abortion because we feel we would be unfit parents (now not so much I have a job, and the girl I'm talking to has one too, but if we were 16.) then let us. I don't want a President saying things like Jesus will be on our side concerning the Middle East (we are not a Christain nation, we are a secular nation...our outward appearance should reflect that). Evolution happened, not Adam and Eve. Gays should be able to marry, I'm not in their bedroom.

This is where the fights would be.
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Old 03-14-2009, 11:44 AM
 
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See, what pretty much happens though is that it's not in the realm of mortgages that Christain policies extend to. It's in abortion, international relations, education, and well in the public sphere. These things are where I care. If my girlfriend wants to get an abortion because we feel we would be unfit parents (now not so much I have a job, and the girl I'm talking to has one too, but if we were 16.) then let us. I don't want a President saying things like Jesus will be on our side concerning the Middle East (we are not a Christain nation, we are a secular nation...our outward appearance should reflect that). Evolution happened, not Adam and Eve. Gays should be able to marry, I'm not in their bedroom.

This is where the fights would be.
I might agree except that I am a firm believer in seperation of church and state. That means the state should not be giving loans or preferential treatment based on religion. Muslems have a choice. To follow the law or dogma of their religion or join the rest of the country. If they decide their faith is more important then thats on them.
The abortion issue? I feel as long as you foot the bill yourself knock yourself out. Tax dollars should not be used to erase someones poor judgment or failure to use birth control. Hint I am against the bailouts.
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Old 03-14-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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I agree totally with seperation of church and state, I just did not like the tone of the article esp. where it gave the slippery slope arguement of this was being the start of Sharia law in the US.
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Old 03-14-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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As an atheist I can say quite clearly and quite loudly that no religion should be getting preferential treatment from government sources. Ever.
I mean, that is the basis against school vouchers isn't it? That catholic schools would be getting 'government money' thus vouchers would be unconstitutional?
-- though I am for vouchers because the catholic schools admit anyone regardless of religion and they do not prosyltize.
But I digress, what is good for the catholic should be good for the muslim. And that means that they should be treated with a certain level of distrust, and should not benefit from government funds. To argue otherwise is hypocritical and unjust.
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