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Old 03-15-2009, 03:25 PM
 
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The United States has the world's most generous illegal immigration agenda. For immigrants, California is their primary destination. And keeping our border with Mexico open allows an unlimited number of illegal aliens access to education and medical care. Partially because of illegal immigration, California has an astronomical $42-44 billion deficit. As a consequence, many school districts are laying off teachers and other school personnel.

Stated another way, the failure to pay attention to the obvious affect illegal immigration has on California's social services means that some of your children's teachers in California will soon be unemployed.


In 2004 the Center for Immigration Studies released a report The High Cost of Cheap Labor: Illegal Immigration and the Federal Budget. The full report is available on their website. Here is an excerpt from the report:

Family Security Matters » Publications » Exclusive: Has Illegal Immigration’s Effect on Education Become the ‘Third Rail’ of Politics?
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Old 03-15-2009, 03:30 PM
 
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The United States has the world's most generous illegal immigration agenda.
As you stated, but what can the average citizen do to oppose their government's agenda which is obviously against their will.

How can Americans be emancipated from their corporate and government elites and oligarchies? and when will be criminimal employeers arrested or fined?
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Old 03-15-2009, 04:01 PM
 
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As you stated, but what can the average citizen do to oppose their government's agenda which is obviously against their will.

How can Americans be emancipated from their corporate and government elites and oligarchies? and when will be criminimal employeers arrested or fined?
Those are all very legitimate questions that continue to remain unanswered. I am a libertarian and a staunch supporter of personal responsibility. Until Americans realize that the two party system is no longer practical, has long outlived its usefulness and term limits are legislated and passed, the insanity that passes for a government that is representative of the voices of the majority of the American people will continue.

As for the criminal employers? Another excellent question, which path leads back to those who hold political office. The corporate lobbyist/crooks and politicians have been in bed together for several decades now. They number in the thousands and their wealth in the hundreds of billions. Politicians are bought and sold daily and the will of the American people continues to be ignored while the well being of Americans and the sovereignty of our nation continues to be sold to the highest bidder.

Again, until the two party system is abolished, this country will continue to belong to the corporate masters and the lobbyists who offers the politician with the most power the biggest pot of gold.

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Old 03-15-2009, 04:37 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Those are all very legitimate questions that continue to remain unanswered. I am a libertarian and a staunch supporter of personal responsibility. Until Americans realize that the two party system is no longer practical, has long outlived its usefulness and term limits are legislated and passed, the insanity that passes for a government that is representative of the voices of the majority of the American people will continue.

As for the criminal employers? Another excellent question, which path leads back to those who hold political office. The corporate lobbyist/crooks and politicians have been in bed together for several decades now. They number in the thousands and their wealth in the hundreds of billions. Politicians are bought and sold daily and the will of the American people continues to be ignored while the well being of Americans and the sovereignty of our nation continues to be sold to the highest bidder.

Again, until the two party system is abolished, this country will continue to belong to the corporate masters and the lobbyists who offers the politician with the most power the biggest pot of gold.
A very brilliant post! kudos to you, I owe you a rep point, unfortunately I have to spread more love around

This situation sounds a lot like what happened in Mexico, after the revolution in 1910 the country was devastated, it was slowly rebuilt under a new political system, there were millions of parties in that time because everybody could open their party, so they decided to join all those small political parties in order to create a giant single political party that was first known as PNR (National Revolutionary Party) then as PRM (Mexican Revolution Party) and finally as the PRI (Revolutionary institutional party) in the beginning everything was good, solid bases of prosperity were built under the PRI's guidance, heroic presidents like Lazaro Cardenas who nationalized the oil industry, or Manuel Avila camacho, who created the Mexican Social Security system (IMSS) these advances made Mexico one of the most prosperous nations after the second world war, but as the time passed, the PRI became more and more corrupt, power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely, this corruption and under the table government practices, spread the corruption to Labor Unions, Institutions, Police, and finally to the average citizen, everything was solved giving out money, this allowed the PRI to be in control for 71 years without any other rival party being able to win, the PRD won the 1988 elections, but the computing system that counted the votes "misteriously" crashed giving the victory to the PRI's candidate.

These corrupt practices slowly eroded Social Security, Police and government efficiency, and life standards, the prosperity that was so hardly sought by former generations was evaporated with hyperinflation and currency depreciation that followed, leaving millions of former middle class citizens in absolute poverty, this also had the consequence of creating a population of emigrants who seek jobs illegally in the US whose numbers grew exponentially.

It took 70 years for the people of this country to be able to know what democracy is, with all it's imperfections, and the damage done to this country during those 70 years hasn't been yet repaired.

Don't let that happen to the US, it CAN happen, as demonstrated by Mexico's example.

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Old 03-15-2009, 05:04 PM
 
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A very brilliant post! kudos to you, I owe you a rep point, unfortunately I have to spread more love around

This situation sounds a lot like what happened in Mexico, after the revolution in 1910 the country was devastated, it was slowly rebuilt under a new political system, there were millions of parties in that time because everybody could open their party, so they decided to join all those small political parties in order to create a giant single political party that was first known as PNR (National Revolutionary Party) then as PRM (Mexican Revolution Party) and finally as the PRI (Revolutionary institutional party) in the beginning everything was good, solid bases of prosperity were built under the PRI's guidance, heroic presidents like Lazaro Cardenas who nationalized the oil industry, or Manuel Avila camacho, who created the Mexican Social Security system (IMSS) these advances made Mexico one of the most prosperous nations after the second world war, but as the time passed, the PRI became more and more corrupt, power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely, this corruption and under the table government practices, spread the corruption to Labor Unions, Institutions, Police, and finally to the average citizen, everything was solved giving out money, this allowed the PRI to be in control for 71 years without any other rival party being able to win, the PRD won the 1988 elections, but the computing system that counted the votes "misteriously" crashed giving the victory to the PRI's candidate.

These corrupt practices slowly eroded Social Security, Police and government efficiency, and life standards, the prosperity that was so hardly sought by former generations was evaporated with hyperinflation and currency depreciation that followed, leaving millions of former middle class citizens in absolute poverty, this also had the consequence of creating a population of emigrants who seek jobs illegally in the US whose numbers grew exponentially.

It took 70 years for the people of this country to be able to know what democracy is, with all it's imperfections, and the damage done to this country during those 70 years hasn't been yet repaired.

Don't let that happen to the US, it CAN happen, as demonstrated by Mexico's example.
Unfortunately, it has already begun. Barring a miracle or a massive uprising of the American people, I don't see a reversal of the current path of destruction.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:09 PM
 
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Let's face it, illegals, while paying sales taxes on items bought, do not pay state, federal or local property taxes-this therefore makes their children a burden on the school systems they attend. I am not saying the children should be punished for the parents illegal acts-but on the other side of things, those who are able already pay taxes to cover the legal poor children or children with special needs as we should. Illegal aliens should not just be deported, they should be fined for anything they own as payment for the services we have rendered them while here illegally. If you think you would get away living as they do in say Mexico, you are sorely mistaken. Illegal aliens are a political issue which could be solved by punishing those who hire them, this was suggested during the Bush administration and ignored by him. One president-Eisenhower did this in the 1950's with great success and the matter was closed. It takes good and thoughtful leaders to deal with this nations problems. If President Obama truly cares about the legal citizens in this land, he might try a little of Ike's methods in this area.
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