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Old 03-30-2009, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I thought I'd find a place to express how I feel. There was a topic here about someone being an illegal alien as well. My story is similar but a bit odd at the same time and you'll see why as you read through the story.

My parents came here with a tourist visa that was valid for a one year. They brought me along and during that time I was only 4 years old. I'm sure this is common but they also decided to overstay their visa. Now that I think about it, back in the days, it was so much easier to obtain legal residence considering how the law was not that strict during that time but why didn't they? Did they not think about how it could affect me later on and how laws would progress? I simply do not know but now I'm the one facing the consequences for their actions. Luckily for them they were able to obtain Driver's License legally. Before, DMV's accepted foreign birth certificates to obtain one. Nowadays, you will have to go through an extra mile to obtain one and prove legal status ever since 9/11 occured.

Now I will get to the odd part. My family was able to obtain AUTHENTIC ORIGINAL SOCIAL SECURITY CARDS. They even got me one when we came to the U.S. This is why we were able to pay our taxes like any other Americans. This is also why I can open a bank account and I hold 3 credit cards under my real identity. I was able to attend Community College because I have an SSN. I am now living independently with my partner and the apartment is also under my name because I have an SSN. I'm a young entrepreneur and I was able to obtain an Employer Identification Number and my business is licensed under the state of Ohio. I am also going to start paying my federal taxes soon so my parents can no longer claim me for any tax refund. My business is concentrated on selling bulk items to businesses for resale such as electronics (mainly mobile phones) and softwares. I earn an average of $5,000-$7,000 monthly. Currently, I have a big client that I'm working with who will be buying from me on a weekly basis of 50 softwares that earns me $10,000 weekly. However, I split this profit with my partner's father because we have negotiated that he will be investing in my business to earn some extra income on his side. I'd still be making $5,000 weekly leaving me with $20,000 still. Life is great. I'm really loving life at this point. My parents are very proud of me and I've helped them along the way with my business and this has made me very happy but there's still something missing in my life.

My mom is still illegal but my father is in the process of obtaining his green card from my half-brother. My father should be receiving it by the end of this June or beginning of July. We have paid our lawyer the necessary filing fees and he said that once my father obtains his green card, he will be able to petition me as soon as possible. I am aware that because we overstayed our visas, we have to pay an extra fee since this is against U.S laws which my father has already paid for since this is required during the procedure. My waiting time will be 2-5 years. It still saddens me because I cannot drive and I have to rely on my partner to drive me around. I will never feel independent until everything is taken care of. It's gotten to the point where I was asking people if they knew someone from the DMV to simply provide me a driver's license since I hold a SSN. I've been informed that the only documents DMV's really check is the SSN and I have an original one. However, I won't be able to present any primary documents such as birth certificate, us passport, state id, etc because I don't have any of that.

If anyone can help me out, I would really appreciate it. I'm not talking about fake documents or anything but does anyone know if there are other exceptions to obtaining a drivers license or at least a State ID so I have some sort of identification? I feel like I should deserve one since I'll be legal in the U.S soon and I am paying my taxes monthly from my business. I've heard around that DMV's accept other form of identification as long as it matches your SSN but I'm not safe with just showing my foreign passport. All I really have is my foreign passport (which I renewed 1 year ago in Los Angeles CA so no I-94 stamp is presented because it's in my old passport that they took), apartment lease contract, school transactions, W-2 Form, SSN, debit/credit card, EIN with TAX ID, Business registration and vendor's license. If I obtain a DL or State ID, I'd feel better knowing I can be independent and then I wouldn't mind waiting 2-5 years for my green card. I am now 19 years old. I came to the U.S when I was 4 years old. It really does get depressing after 15 years of nothing and my only wish is to be able to obtain any sort of identification so I don't have to feel embarass around my friends because I don't have an ID.

I don't have any knowledge that can help you, but I commend you for the making the best out of your life in the US, and striving to gain legal citizenship.
I wish you all the best of luck in you and your father, and hopefully the rest of your family obtaining legal residence here.

 
Old 03-30-2009, 07:11 PM
 
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As you said, it was easier prior to 9/11. People were even allowed to get ssn for their families outside the country. I don't know if the difference between you parents and the other family is the way they entered the US. However, it was all done legally. My best advice to you is to be patient until you become legal. Make sure you always carry your documents that say you are in the process of legalization so in case you get stopped by ICE they will not deport you. Best luck to you.
 
Old 03-30-2009, 07:19 PM
 
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if you are an illegal alien, go to your country of birth and apply to immigrate here. until then, leave.
That's the thing. This is the only country he recognizes. Due to the fact that hE was a child when his parents broke the law, he has no memory of what the other country was like. Since he never left the country, ironically, he is probably more assimilated into the culture than I am, since was able to co e and go as I wanted and yet I think I'm pretty well assimilated.
 
Old 03-30-2009, 07:19 PM
 
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Camping, back in those days people were given valid ssn. I believe this is what he is talking about. It's not fake.
Never in the history of the US have social security cards been LEGALLY issued to foreigners/non US citizens. Those who are LEGALLY present and permitted to work in the US are issued ITIN's for the sole purpose of paying taxes.
 
Old 03-30-2009, 07:25 PM
 
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That's the thing. This is the only country he recognizes. Due to the fact that hE was a child when his parents broke the law, he has no memory of what the other country was like. Since he never left the country, ironically, he is probably more assimilated into the culture than I am, since was able to co e and go as I wanted and yet I think I'm pretty well assimilated.


too bad, if he is here illegally, then he and his parents are criminals. go back to his country of birth and apply for immigration.

until he does that he is nothing more than a criminal with an illegal ssn.
 
Old 03-30-2009, 07:26 PM
 
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Never in the history of the US have social security cards been LEGALLY issued to foreigners. Those who are LEGALLY permitted to work in the US are issued ITIN's.
As I said, back in the day they were. I know this for a fact as I have worked with agencies that required us to check these things. Besides when you are close to these issues ( I have been around many people who are not legal due to where I was born and grew up) I would know this. You can contact your local franchise tax board and they can confirm.
 
Old 03-30-2009, 07:28 PM
 
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As I said, back in the day they were. I know this for a fact as I have worked with agencies that required us to check these things. Besides when you are close to these issues ( I have been around many people who are not legal due to where I was born and grew up) I would know this. You can contact your local franchise tax board and they can confirm.
I've been a US citizen my entire life. Can you honestly say the same?

Key word: NEVER. I've been a US citizen my entire life. Can you honestly say the same? I defy you to prove that lie.

What part of ILLEGAL AND NEVER do you not understand I defy you to prove what you stated above.
 
Old 03-30-2009, 07:32 PM
 
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Key word: NEVER. I've been a US citizen my entire life. Can you honestly say the same? I defy you to prove that lie.

What part of ILLEGAL AND NEVER do you not understand
I have also been a US citizen my entire life.

I stand by what I said. Like I said, if you don't believe me you can check with the tax board. I'm not interested in proving anything.

Have a good night.
 
Old 03-30-2009, 07:33 PM
 
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I have also been a US citizen my entire life.

I stand by what I said. Like I said, if you don't believe me you can check with the tax board. I'm not interested in proving anything.

Have a good night.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
 
Old 03-30-2009, 07:36 PM
 
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too bad, if he is here illegally, then he and his parents are criminals. go back to his country of birth and apply for immigration.

until he does that he is nothing more than a criminal with an illegal ssn.
I couldn't agree more. Great post
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